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Old 29-07-2011, 08:33 PM
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Question Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

I have been looking for a tinned cat food to change two of my four cats onto. They were on Trophy Holistic wet food but Trophy have stopped making it now. I have ordered Animonda Carny for them, but am confused about the feeding guidelines.

Trophy was 70% meat and 10% protein and they only needed to be fed 1/4 of a tin (around 100g) a day each. (I know the trophy food had rice in which isn't ideal anyway)

Animonda Carny is 97% meat, 11.5% protein but it says they need to be fed 200g a day plus? It is comparable to trophy on fat etc. To me this doesnt make sense?

When I searched around for different high quality foods I found feeding guides were so confusing. I am going to try feeding them the same amount of Animonda Carny as I did Trophy and see how they get on, but I wondered if anyone else could tell me how much they feed their cats and why feeding guides are so varied?
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

I'm not familiar with Trophy but 100g seems very little of any wet food. How heavy is your cat and are you feeding anything alongside the wet? Most of the high quality foods recommend 150-250g for an average 4kg cat.
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

Ari likes Animonda so much that she (a small slender cat) eats a whole can per day.
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

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Most of the high quality foods recommend 150-250g for an average 4kg cat.
I think that Animonda Carny is actually 300-400g for an average cat. Our two go through 1.5 - 2 cans of Carny or 2 Bozita Tetrapaks per day between them.

Is the OP feeding a mixed Wet+Dry diet? Just 100g of wet seems very low.
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

One is 2.9kg (Poppy) and the other is 3.5kg (Jess). They are an ideal weight for their size on the trophy food. They both have a tendency to over eat so I have to make sure they get the right amount. They are mother and daughter. The mother was a stray who turned up at our house as an emaciated kitten; we took her in and she turned out to be pregnant. Both mother (poppy) and daughter (Jess) have Stomatitis and wet food is better for them (we use seaweed powder to help their teeth too).

I also have two other cats, one (male, Lister) who has FLUTD (and rodent ulcer) and is on a prescription only diet (Royal Canin S/O) which works fantastically well. The other cat (Shroe) is on Orijen (she tends to under eat at times and can be picky and we find the high protein content suits her really well).

We have to be careful that we buy a food (for Poppy and Jess) that is good quality and will help strengthen their immune systems, but that isnt too expensive. The cats cost us enough in food, litter and insurance lol. We were paying just over a pound a tin for Trophy food and a tin lasted 2 days; surely if the amount we gave them maintained their weight (and they are perfect according to the vet) a comparable food would last the same time? We don't give them additional food, only the odd treat on occasion.

I find the difference in feeding amounts from manufacturer to manufacturer confusing and don't know where they get the figures from?

Any advice greatly appreciated.
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Old 29-07-2011, 11:49 PM
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

I feed GranataPet which recommends 100g a day, however it contains a good amount of taurine compared to other canned foods and has a very good balance of meat/offal. Naturally though Arnold can go through 200g of it per day.

I would offer more though and see how they maintain their weight on it.
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

Thank you. It's good to know another food has a similar feeding guideline and Trophy were not alone. Sometimes the cats do seem hungry, so maybe the portion did need to be increased a bit any way, especially in the summer when they are more active.
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

At the end of the day guidelines are just that, despite differing manufacturers recommendations I can see no reason why a cat that requires 100g of Hermanns or Trophy would require 3 times that of Grau or Macs. If the foods are similar in quality then the amount a cat requires will also be similar. If your cats are maintaining weight, healthy and happy then that is the main thing. It will probably just be a case of experimenting with the Carny to get a feeding level that suits your cats but as previously stated I doubt your cats would need considerably more Carny than Trophy. I feed my 3.5kg cat Grau, Mac's, Granatapet and Petnatur and she pretty much has 200g plus a pinch of dry a day on all of them.

Saying that I still maintain that 100g does seem rather low, I wonder if they are outdoor cats and supplementing their diet with prey?

If it's any use to you they do appear to have Trophy in stock here, they might be worth a call if you wanted to stock up

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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

Thanks for your reply. Trophy have stopped manufacturing the food all together (I contacted them) so I need to change to another one anyway. I appreciate you finding the site though, I may get some of the remaining stock in.

I think the amount of cat food does need increasing beyond 100g during the summer at least, so I will see how they get on with Animonda Carny when it arrives. The cats do go out, but don't go far (they come in when called lol).

Thanks again.
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Re: Feeding Guidelines Confusing and Animonda Carny

No idea what the analysis of the Trophy was or what the actual ingredients were but I doubt very much that 100g of Animonda Carny are going to be enough for your cats - even when they only way 3kgs.

A lot of the feeding recommendations are determined by the calories that are provided per 100g, the amount of vitamins, minerals, amino acids the 100g contain etc. This is typically determined by food analyses as well as feeding trials.

The Animonda Carny appears to contain a surprising amount of carbs for a food that allegedly contains no cereals, sugars etc, which will also affect the feeding rec (I am quite looking forward to seeing the changed Animonda Carny labels - be interesting to see what the changes, if any, there will be). The amount of by-products in the food also appears to affect the feeding rec.

I would take any feeding recommendations with a pinch of salt. Herrmanns would like us believe that you only need to feed your average-sized 4kg cat an 85g pouch, which would be LESS than the equivalent in raw food. The foods that I rate most highly tend to have a feeding rec of around 150 for a 3kg cat. Grau have recently revised their feeding recs when they changed the labels as well as the recipe perhaps, which I would most definitely ignore and would be led more by the previous recs that were used for quite a few years.


However, I guess there is a potential lesson to be learnt here though: Don't just rely on one food. My mantra, and those of others on here, is that you should try to feed about 3 or 4 equal quality brands in rotation. Not only does that preempt any possible boredom with the food, it also ensures that nutritionally all boxes are covered and that when a manufacturer changes the recipe or stops making a food you are not left scrambling around looking for another food that they will like.

Hope this helps somewhat!
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