... Bozita (pate only), Animonda Carney and Grau?

I ask because Rosso's latest blood test results returned yesterday. Everything was normal, including creatinine (don't have a figure, but vet said "well within normal levels), except urea was slightly elevated. (Normal 13 Rosso 14.1).

Tanya's CRF site says that both have to be raised for a cat to be in renal failure. If urea alone is raised it's either a) dehydrated (no) b) gastro intestinal bleeding (definitely no) c) the cat is on a high protein food. I'm hoping the latter will explain all.

Another site says urea alone may be an indicated of early or mild CRF, but I feel more inclined to go with Tanya's site than another less specialist site.

This is a blood test 6 months after a lily eating incident in early December, over which there was almost a divorce (if not a murder) when my husband left the door open to the front porch where the cats aren't allowed due to the risk of them getting out through the front door. However I've learned my lesson and lillies won't even get down the drive in future.

It's been the first test where creatinine has been within normal (it went up after the incident, he was on fluids, went down, then slightly up again and the last time it was tested 3 months ago was still slightly above the normal range. Having said that they did a urine test, which showed an e-coli infection, so maybe that had an effect on the creatinine last time? The vet has basically said he's fine, to retest in 6 months for peace of mind/bring him in if we notice any symptoms (he's been very healthy and lively). It's such a relief after all this time.

Great news on the tests! What a relief.

Yes, all three are relatively high in protein.

hobbs.......... you havent replied to my message its been daysssssss

Great, thanks. Yes, I suspected and hoped that if "normal" figures are based on your average supermarket fed cat, Rosso's diet might explain it. It would be interesting to hear, if anyone else feeding any of the above has bloods done, if they experience raised urea.

I would still have preferred a straight normal for everything, so all the boxes were ticked and we could put it all behind us, but this is the very next best thing and much more than I dared hope for 6 months ago.

Still, the research I did then meant I found this site, this site prompted me to feed them better quality food ... so some good came out of it all after all. Now I want to buy them a big cat tree as a "relief present" to make up for such a worrying Christmas. And I know who OUGHT to pay for it in recompense for leaving doors open when he shouldn't!

I think so long as the phosphorus levels are stable as well. If the phosphorus levels are good then the kidneys are dealing with it adequately. It is high levels of phosphorus that make a cat feel ill. Phosphorus normally comes from high protein foods but by the sound of it your cat is dealing well with that.

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Phosphorous wasn't mentioned this time so I assume it was OK. I know it was raised when the incident first occurred, but was down again three months ago. It was only when I'd put the phone down I thought about phosphorous, I was just so relieved about the creatinine.

He obviously doesn't feel ill - all three of them are chasing around in their own version of the Grand National right now He eats well and his weight is stable. I think if phosphorous had been a problem she would have been recommending renal foods, because I made some comment about it didn't look as though we needed to look at renal food and she said no, not necessary.

Yes, I think you are right, it would have been mentioned if it was a problem. My boy is in early stages of kidney failure or has been for some two years now. He is on renal food and I also have some Renalzin in as well just in case he accidentally gets his chops around some high protein food. His last two blood tests have been very good as well and his weight is stable. It is a lovely feeling when the blood results come back good.

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Yes, especially as he's only 6 years old and the belief that he might have sent him into renal failure due to the actions of the people looking after him were eating me up with guilt. It didn't do a lot for our relationship either.

What message hun? I think I replied to them all

i sent you a message on thursday.... the last message ive got in my inbox from you was wednesday