That "thanks for the great feedback" REALLY got on my nerves too.

Stuff the bloody thanks FEWILL and edit your original post where you clearly condone the barbaric practice of declawing.

You call yourself an animal advocate???? I have a better word for you,. but using it would probably get me banned.

I too have noticed that your recent articles are getting more and more "out there".

When you (me or the next person) puts our self forward as some kind of authority on cats on this forum... I feel VERY strongly that we also have a moral obligation to stick around and counter points or answer questions asked of us.

If someone like Billyboysmammy or myself want to be taken seriously and listened to on our kitten-rearing tips... we can't just do a hit and run posting on a controversial subject, we have to stick around and answer the queries that our posting creates – even if the responses we get are disagreeing with the advice we give, we have a MORAL OBLIGATION to at least attempt an open debate. The same with someone like Hobbs on the question of feline nutrition... she can't (and absolutely doesn't!) just post diet advice then when questioned on that advice reply with a useless "thanks for the feedback".

I truly and honestly feel FEWIll that you are abusing the goodwill you have created on this forum.... and your advice is getting more and more cat unfriendly and potentially dangerous and barbaric.

I know it's the internet and I know anyone can post anything they want on the internet so I won't infringe upon your right to spout your rubbish ... but I am DELIGHTED that people like PaddyPaws are stepping up to the plate and blasting your ill thought over posts and bad-advice into thin-air!

FEWill, You chose to put yourself out there as some kind of cat-authority, nobody forced you into it, it was your own choice. Now when people start disagreeing with you, your response is a measly “thanks for the feedback”. That’s weak. Very weak! You’re really losing all credibility! And I don't know anymore what your main aim with these articles is... I defended you in the past as I genuinely though animal welfare was your main aim... now I am sure it isn't. I just don't know what your main aim is. I do know you are no selfless animal-advocate. Or if you are, you a very poorly informed one with no desire whatosoever to learn and improve your knowledge!

Hi Paddy,

Ok --your turn. What exactly are your objections and did it stimulate you to think?

Am I right or am I wrong? It is your cat that you have to deal with.

But instead of everyone in this forum discussing how great their pets are, stimulate some discusssion. Right or wrong--diffference or indifference

At least make something happen. If I am wrong on any tidbit of any article than correct me and lets grow from that. Declawing is legal and suggested in the US, but some of your thoughts have made a big difference in my thoughts.

And yes, for the record, Jessie's second cat has diabetes and we have worked together to try to control it. She really can not afford the medications as they are just starting out. I have paid for everything this far but at some point she has to take over. that is part of the reality--correct Paddy?

But that is one part of growing and becoming an adult and learning to care for pets.

And some of you attack for this?

Very interesting. You attack and I will keep trying to help and will never attack back.

I have two cheeks and they both turn just fine.

Thanks,
Frank

Oh man Frank. Are you for real? Have you even bothered to read the posts on this and the life expectancy thread?

Right or wrong? Stimulate her to think? PP's and my objection to this thread about insulin was that it was not only one-sided but also scaremongering. And PP made it clear in her post why she thought you are misguided in what you are saying.

I think the tables really are turned here and the question is has it stimulated YOU to think outside of the box and to perhaps read more widely than the alarmist sources you have read so far.


We have stimulated discussion Frank - YOU are not discussing. You throw things into the room but then don't respond to any criticism or further questions that arise. It decidedly is YOU how is not holding a debate.

You stir it but then you just sit back watching as people get more frustrated with you. And when you do post in response your response it is littered with meaningless platitudes.

Why bother to post a thread on issues that you say you have "researched" and where you have pulled together the info for people's benefit if you are not willing to discuss any challenges or queries. Perhaps you should just post your "research" articles in online magazines, where they cannot be discussed and where you can admire your supposed cleverness unadulterated.

I guess my question is that if you are not willing to discuss your posts, then why bother? What is the point of those threads if you don't react when people say that the info included is either one-sided, wrong, misinformed? Do you just like to hear the sound of your own supposedly clever writings? Does it give you something to do?

For the rest of your post:


Jeez, Frank. Talk about misconstruing here. This is not about Jessie's cat, this is not about you supporting her and her at one point taking full responsibility for her cat.

This is about you seemingly wanting to help on an online forum by providing "research" summaries on a variety of health issues that have increasingly become one-sided, alarmist, unbalanced and overall, not helpful at all.

This is not about Christian beliefs of turning the other cheek, this is about you learning to do your research properly and in a balanced manner. Helping is about dialogue, and this is about you engaging with the concerns of your readers imo.

Frank, I think Hobbs has - very eloquently - said it all.
All I want to do at this stage is point you once again towards a properly researched protocol for dealing effectively with Feline Diabetes.
Diabetic Cat Care
The protocol was developed by a veterinary specialist, and the forum is populated by a bunch of knowledgable and dedicated cat owners all working together to deal with FD.
Take a look your self, sign up and join in by all means and encourage Jessie to do so too.

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Millie and Monty, the White Devils!

I admire your cool PP.

Frank, please follow PP's advice and check out that link.
For a dietary approach also check out this link:Feline Diabetes by Lisa A. Pierson, DVM and perhaps also check out this forum: FDMB - The Feline Diabetes Message Board • Index page

Nothing to add Hobbs said it all,just did not want to read and run.

Oh and PP I admire your cool too

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Oh for goodness sake FEWill, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The whole reason why people are getting irate is because YOU don’t discuss things. You state things as indisputable facts, like you are some kind of authority on cats, and frankly you’re not. Your articles often include questionable and at times down right dangerous or barbaric advice & opinions, and you pass them off as fact. People continually make very valid counter points and you do not respond at all. You are the one walking way from debate and discussion, not the rest of us. Please don’t accuse us of sitting on here with no greater care in our collective little minds than posting about how cute and cool our cats are, and implying that we are in some way not capable of discussing more in-depth topics. YOU are the one having trouble with that Frank, not the rest of us!

Couldn’t you at least add some kind of disclaimer to your post, something along the lines of “the article above is based solely on my own personal laymen’s opinion, I am not medically or veterinary trained, you may disagree with my articles, but I will not enter into any kind of discussion about them. I post here as I am looking for a willing audience to read my articles, but I don’t actually want to enter into any sort of debate about them. Feedback, while welcomed, will be ignored”

Adding a disclaimer like that Frank, would be the ethical thing to do – and it would be in the best interests of animal welfare to make it clear where your knowledge comes from as obviously there is a lot of confusion as to your actual credentials. With the rest of us it’s pretty obvious we are mere cat owners/breeders or foster parents, with you it’s not so obvious, and you do “just post an article” where as the rest of enter into discussions, and if anyone wants to know what we’re basing our opinions on, we are more than willing to answer, you’re not.

Please stop treating us like a bunch of mindless morons, just here to read your articles but not qualified to comment on them or correct you.

It scares me a bit, reading your posts FEwill, as you are writing your posts as being factual and well researched. I'm scared for the people who, thinking you
an authority on the subjects you post about, will follow your personal opinions on matters, thinking they're following correct advice.
I think Tje is very right in asking you to write some sort of disclaimer with your posts, telling everyone they're your musings and not necessarily true and valid.

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I'll tell you what scares me ... I was just looking at your site Frank and I can see that most of the articles you put on the forums are on there. Along with a claim from yourself on the "About The Author" page saying you have had over 450 articles published

I honestly am quite alarmed at the thought that someone typing into google might pick up one of your articles, and because of the way you have written them they will think your word is how it is, or should be. You know, the people who are experiencing something for the first time with their animals. Imagine someone being told their cat is diabetic ... they google, find you article and decide to have their cat pts

Your article could be very convincing to someone who doesn't know much about these things, or doesn't have a thought to research further and more thoroughly.

BTW Frank, I'm not sure if you're aware but by posting your articles word for word on the forums, I believe (though things could have changed) you're damaging your google rank (thank goodness!).