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Old 28-01-2011, 04:23 PM
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re: Chicken & Rice

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Please don't think I'm dismissing any advice, I'm not. I'm just want to do what's best for my raggie.

Having read all I can about Gardia, with respect to all posters, the symptoms do not really seem to fit. The diarrhoea was a one off episode, caused by gluttony and he isn't listless or losing weight. He doesn't have chronic diarrhoea, his stools are just very soft and sloppy. On a scale of 0-10, where 0 is watery fluid and 10 is hard & solid, his poo is always somewhere between 3 and 4. My other cat is a steady 9-10.

Anyway, I shall do TBs three days of chicken and if no better I shall ask the vet do some tests and if he won't I'll find a vet who will!!

Hobbs, (hiding behind the sofa here) I'm also confused about not using the Diar-eze though as the feedback is excellent. Even though he doesn't have diarrhoea, I would have thought anything that could help firm things up would be worth trying. Yes? No?

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The only reason why I suggest that for the moment you don't add anything or feed anything else but chicken for a couple or so days is to see whether it is the rice that perhaps brought about the slightly sloppier poop you saw or whether it is indeed the chicken. You would be surprised by how many peeps I have seen that have a cat with a chicken sensitivity.

IF it is a food sensitivity and it is the rice, then you should see a change in poop consistency in a very short time (though with some allergic food reactions in can take up to 6 weeks for symptoms to disappear). WITHOUT the need for any other product.

Best case scenario, it suddenly firms up in the next few days just on chicken in which case you need to start cutting out rice etc from the diet. However, it could just be getting worse, in which case it could indicate that it is the chicken, which in turn means that you need to find another protein source (e.g. beef, lamb, venison etc) and your are heading towards a proper elimination diet.

However, I do agree with the others. IF it continues being sloppy and doesn't show any signs of firming up at all, then I would send it off for testing. There is no point faffing around with diet or an elimination diet any further if there is
a chance of a parasitic or bacterial reason for it all.
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Old 28-01-2011, 05:35 PM
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you can also use turkey for the chicken diet!
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Old 28-01-2011, 05:55 PM
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More thanks to all, especially Hobbs for explaining the elimination diet and logic behind her thinking. I hope it isn't the chicken, as it's all he's getting at the moment. If it is, I may need to hose down the carpets by the morning.
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Id do what my vet suggusts, it works wonders

cut out the biccis & rice

for 5days:

day 1: chicken

day 2: chicken

day 3: chicken

day 4: 75% chicken & 25% his normal food

day 5: 50% chicken 50% his normal food

day 6: 75% chicken 25% normal food

day 7: 100% normal food.


really works wonders for upset tums, I found that pro kolin doesnt help, infact the vet actually said that it wasnt any good either Im sure it helps some cats though.

Have you tried porta 21 sensitive? it really helped my raggie girl with her poops

Can you spell this out for the thicko here

I have a puss with soft stools and he def seems to have a sensitive stomach. More so than the other one. It's not diarrhoea (I can tell the difference from when he got a bit of banana out of the bin before I could stop him and had 2 days of explosive poo eek it's just very soft in comparison to his bro and he's still has a healthy appetite is very playful, drinks really well but I'd like him to have decent poo for the smell and to make him into a healthy boy

How do you prepare the chicken, what do you buy and what quantities? I'm a vegetarian and the idea of handling/ cooking chicken makes me feel sick (normal cat food is bad enough!!) but I'll do it for my boys but don't want to poison them.

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More thanks to all, especially Hobbs for explaining the elimination diet and logic behind her thinking. I hope it isn't the chicken, as it's all he's getting at the moment. If it is, I may need to hose down the carpets by the morning.
you can also use turkey, both lean meats, kinda the same thing anyway haha
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Can you spell this out for the thicko here

I have a puss with soft stools and he def seems to have a sensitive stomach. More so than the other one. It's not diarrhoea (I can tell the difference from when he got a bit of banana out of the bin before I could stop him and had 2 days of explosive poo eek it's just very soft in comparison to his bro and he's still has a healthy appetite is very playful, drinks really well but I'd like him to have decent poo for the smell and to make him into a healthy boy

How do you prepare the chicken, what do you buy and what quantities? I'm a vegetarian and the idea of handling/ cooking chicken makes me feel sick (normal cat food is bad enough!!) but I'll do it for my boys but don't want to poison them.

lol well what i did was buy chicken breasts and I oven cook with some water in them but you can also boil them but i have no idea how to do that!!

let it cool down and i strip/cut it into tiny pieces, currently got 3 thawing out, cos mine are just spoilt lol

the quaitiy depends on the cat size/weight etc, I alaways put a little in the bowl, bit of water on in, I also feed cat milk, found sainburyss own good as it has good gut fliora and the vet said it would be good for hydration and the cats loved it. I spread the food out throughout the day, i they gulp it all down in one go I always give a little more lol
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lol well what i did was buy chicken breasts and I oven cook with some water in them but you can also boil them but i have no idea how to do that!!

let it cool down and i strip/cut it into tiny pieces, currently got 3 thawing out, cos mine are just spoilt lol

the quaitiy depends on the cat size/weight etc, I alaways put a little in the bowl, bit of water on in, I also feed cat milk, found sainburyss own good as it has good gut fliora and the vet said it would be good for hydration and the cats loved it. I spread the food out throughout the day, i they gulp it all down in one go I always give a little more lol

so do you cook in a roasting pan but with water so kind of like poaching but in the oven?

Sorry these prob sound like the most stupid questions ever but apart from cooking friends the odd pasta dish with salmon or bacon in I haven't cooked meat in nearly 10 years and obviously I can't try it to check that it's ok.

would that take about 35/40 mins ish or cook a lot sooner than that? Also how long could I keep them in the fridge when they were cooked?


They love water and drink quite a lot which is very refreshing as my old cat didn't drink at all which used to worry me to death so I don't think I'd give them the kitten milk. I tried the pets at home one on them for a treat once and that did not go down well with his tummy so won't be using that brand again.
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Chicken with the rice is very good food, but you must have to give without oil. Because too much oil it bad for animals same as human. Give boiled chicken or rice, without any ingredients.
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I must say, I always have a bit of a giggle when I read these posts about poop: the consistency, vicosity, frequency, colour, etc. It is amazing how interested one becomes in poop once you get a cat!
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He had a poop on day 3. It's day 5 now, so another poop is expected. Nothing yet though. His appetite has increased a lot and his weight has gone up nicely, so it's all inside there somewhere. The Butchers Classic seems to be going down ok, but with the delay between food in and poop out, it's difficult to know. As an aside, I thought Bozita was high in jelly, Classic has even more.
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