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Old 15-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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Re: Rehoming cats

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Firstly my friends do not breed to excess, they are careful only to keep a kitten if they know they have room for it and, no, if it would mean having too many cats for them all to be given a good quality of life and love then they would temporarily stop breeding. One has 6 cats and until one dies naturally will not keep any more kittens regardless, another has the time, space and money for a considerably larger number, none will ever compromise the health or happiness of their pets.

Secondly I just enjoy a debate and if that offends you then perhaps you should not participate in forums

Thirdly I am actively involved in several local cat rescues and do most strongly advocate the neutering of ALL animals not intended for breeding, be they pedigree cats or moggies, dogs or even rabbits!


Finally I apologise most sincerely for the lack of an introduction, there are brief notes upon my profile which I thought would suffice but please do feel free to ask of me what you will

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I also work with a rescue place in my area I even take in unwanted queens give them the best quality of life possible then rehome the mums and kittens
I think a lot of people will feel strongly about this subject as it is very close to a lot of people's hearts, a some breeders have kittens to order which disgusts me but most breeders have their cats and kittens welfare at heart. As i am not a breeder i dont know enough about it the in's and out's of it all but everyone I have dealt with puts all their cats first and foremost x
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Old 15-07-2008, 09:43 PM
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Re: Rehoming cats

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As a hobby breeder i totaly agree with janee, we cant alway keep our girls and boys after they have finished breeding, it would not be ethical, and we would end up with to many pet cats, i have not yet rehomed any of my queens or studs, but i would consider finding them a suitable home when the time comes, and i would not put them into a rescue center, as i would like to know who and where they will go, and that they will be loved and looked after in a manner to which i do with all my boys & girls.
So are you saying that you care more for your hobby than you do about your cats?

I think this is what Toby is saying. If you loved them truly, as most cat lovers love their pets, you would never be able to part with them!
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Old 15-07-2008, 10:17 PM
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So are you saying that you care more for your hobby than you do about your cats?

I think this is what Toby is saying. If you loved them truly, as most cat lovers love their pets, you would never be able to part with them!
But then u wouldn't be a breeder u would be a crazy person who had to many cats and not enough space x
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Old 15-07-2008, 10:21 PM
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As someone who has just adopted 2 Maine Coons from a breeder I think that statement is a little harsh.

This explains it quite succinctly I think:

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Hobby breeders love their cats but they also are participating in a hobby the ultimate aim of which is to breed the ultimate cat of the breed.

There has already been discussion in another thread about how many cats is too many and that the owner must have adequate resource to love, nourish and care for his/her cats.

I agree that offloading cats to the local rescue centre is not the way to go (though wouldn't the rescue centre be a little suspicious if that kept happening????)

Finding a loving and suitable home for an adoptee and not letting that cat go until that home is found is what most responsible breeders do. Some adoptee details have been on breeder websites for some time because the breeder has not yet found 'the' home.

If you look at most adoptee pages on breeders' websites you will see that there is a detailed description of the type of family the breeder is looking for that will suit the personality of the cat. Here is another example:

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Janee-you have such a wonderful way of putting these things and it's absolutely refreshing to read
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So are you saying that you care more for your hobby than you do about your cats?

I think this is what Toby is saying. If you loved them truly, as most cat lovers love their pets, you would never be able to part with them!
What a self indulgent statement-in an ideal world of course we all accomadate each and every single cat/kitten we are privvy to slaving and rearing..but as breeders you have to put your cats needs before your own-as a non breeder this is a luxury point of view where your heart is allowed to rule your head and i understand why you would feel this way-but as breeders or part of a breeding family-a luxury ideal you simply cannot afford-and by no means an easy decision to reach or to execute
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Re: Rehoming cats

Firstly I would say I don't trust anyone that posts in red type in speaks on anger and aggressiveness from the outset, and what do you know? This person is now showing as banned, wonder why

The thing you have to undertand about breeding Dogzncats, is the aim is to progress the breed and to promote all the good qualities of it. As breeders if we did not invest in new lines as someone else said it would come to a standstill and we might as well just be breeding any cat to any cat to make a quick buck. However that is most definitely not the objective. I am now at the stage where I have 16 cats and must start to find loving retirement homes for some. I could never part with my foundation cats who will have a home here for life, but we have to be sensible and sometimes rehome our cats, and believe it or not it is a wrench and heartbreaking and all steps are taken to find them the best possible home. I still have Jinxy for sale due to stupid enquiries about him and timewasters, he will only go when I feel it is right. )
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Old 16-07-2008, 08:28 AM
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Re: Rehoming cats

Saynamore you have explained it better than anyone from the breeders POV and I think I get it, BUT I suppose I still cannot see past hobby vs cats... I cannot see how anyone would choose to part with a cat that is a member of the family and who is loved, in the quest for bettering that breed.

Now if as breeders, people said that they do not get emotionally attached and that it is not like me and my cats, I could understand that. The hobby comes first before the cats, so of course some have to move to make room for new, it is just sucjh a cold calculating idea.
Rescue people who fosterer in their own homes take in a cat, they love it and look after it but let it go because ultimately that is best for the cat, whereas when a breeder lets a cat go it is in the breeders best interests. If they loved that cat more than anything they would not be able to part with it, and would give the hobby up.

And no, I would never become that crazy cat person because I wouldn't keep getting cats-because it wouldn't be fair on the ones i have-they come first.

I suppose i should not compare how I love my pets to how a breeder does things.
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