I have looked but apart from Kingsmark in the states and a few other Stateside breeders I have drawn a blank.

If you really are intrested I will give you a long list of breeders in the UK

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Hi,

I believe that the late Paul Starling of Ozalet Bengals was the first breeder to try to develop the ‘Serengeti’ breed back in the late 90’s. The breed was originally called the ‘Savannah’ but was changed to Serengeti due to the Savannah breed we know today already being developed in the States.

Cat World ran a double page article on the then-called Savannah cat but the breed didn’t really take off, mainly due to lack of interest. The GCCF refused to recognise any more breeds containing even a tiny percentage of wild blood after the Bengal cat gained recognition. There were a number of Serengeti cats bred to Bengals but these offspring were ‘Bengal Variants’ if registered with the GCCF. A Bengal mated to a Serengeti will be a cross-breed.

I would be interested to see a list of Serengeti breeders in the UK. I can’t seem to find any

Lucy

Most of the ones I have seen in the UK seem to have an Oriental girl(s) which they will be mating to a Bengal boy, or the website is defunct. Perhaps it is only an attempt by some to add the Bengal name to their kittens to increase the pennies.

It is no coincidence it seems to me, that those breeding them seem to be Oriental and Serengeti or Bengal and Serengeti breeders.

I feel it just seems to be a cross cat with a name.
A Siamese x Bengal is a moggie according to TB, why would an Oriental to a Bengal be any different? I don't really see any attempt at an organised foundation program for these cats.

Perhaps I will breed Siamese to Lynx point Snow Bengals and call them Kilimanjaros. Any interest?

Lauren

O yes that's the chap. I represented someone in court once (as a lay supporter at the County court I mean, I am not a lawyer) who had been "done" by one of that man's cronies who sold her this cross bred kitten (bengal x Havana) claiming it was this wonderful rare new breed that she was going to make lots of money from. The person I was representing didn't have a leg to stand on of course and lost the case but not before I had convinced the judge that I was a cat expert and made my point strongly about breeders taking naive novices for vast amounts of money under false pretences.

Liz

This doesn't surprise me at all unfortunately.
I know of many a sad tale told to me by unsuspecting new breeders who ended up spending silly amounts of money on a 'rare' new breed of cat.

there are several Serengeti breeders in the UK some established and some just starting out. To call the Serengeti a crossbreed is offenseive to say the least. All new breeds have to start somewhere and maybe some should remember that the oriental shorthair is a siamese x domestic shorthair. Can't get much more moggyish than that!

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Quite amusing too the remark about the 'sky high' cost of a new breed. A Serengeti sells on average for around £350 ( compared to the savannah around £1000 and the pixie bob much higher) though there are a couple of breeders who want to push that cost higher. The breed is in it's infancy here, we do not have ready made SE's like the US do and we therefore have to go back to the basics and start at the bottom. The resulting kittens ARE however registered with TICA as SE's. If you want to get picky, most breeds started out as experimental programmes but they all had to start somewhere. The fact that many of you may have joined a breed many years after this initial stage does not detract from the fact that they were originally crossbreeds. If this idea is not for you thats fine nobody is pressganging you into joining but is there any need for the animosity and bitching? WE are proud to be foundation breeders of the SE. You chose to take the comfy route and buy an established breed, we prefer the rockier climb with a new one. Live and let live and show some respect for other cat breeders for goodness sake!

As for the comment about the oriental looking like nothing else, hmm sorry but it looked exactly like the siamese but with different eye and coat colour.

hmmm like you did with your first post you mean!!


hmmmm so what you are basically saying is then that any breed of cat with the same body shape as another is exactly the same you could get rid of quite a few breeds on that basis.

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