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Old 29-10-2011, 01:17 PM
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

I've been on this forum the same length of time as you and have read and researched all the food advice that has been given and nowhere have I seen it written that kittens should be eating 600g of food a day. I'd have been seriously worried if I had read that.

I can't even begin to imagine forcing 600g of food a day down my kittens' necks - even now they are almost 6 months old and eating more they eat nowhere near that amount.

Thanks to everyone on here who takes the time (over and over again!) to advise new people about feeding their cats. I've followed the advice I've been given properly and sensibly and have 3 fantastically shiny, healthy and gorgeous cats.

To the OP - I'd suggest reading widely in future rather than taking one comment out of context.
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Old 29-10-2011, 01:25 PM
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I did everything I could for my kitten, so making any sort of accusation that it was somehow my fault or I didn't follow advise is disgusting and you as caring pet owners should be ashamed of yourself.
But you are accusing us on here of giving you the wrong advise but you didn't follow what was given properly, you took a remark about some kittens managing 600g a day and decided you were being told to feed your kittens that much and told your vet that was what you were told to do and he then told you we all gave you the wrong advice when in fact no-one told you to feed the kittens 600g a day - so WHO is making the accusations - pot . .kettle . . black??? And why won't you answer the questions? When did you take the kittens to the vets? And how long did you feed the chicken for? Did you get them wormed? etc etc. If you had recurring problems why didn't you come back on here and ask for more help rather than waiting weeks and then blaming it all on us at the vets????
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Old 29-10-2011, 01:35 PM
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

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I used this forum a few months ago when I first got my new kittens. One of them had terrible diareah and they were both pooing around 7 times a day! I asked for advise in this forum about kitten feeding and kitten pooing and were advised kittens could eat as much as 600g a day each! I was advised by members to rush my kitten into the vet with diareah.
After weeks of worrying, phone calls to the vets and putting the kitten on fresh cooked chicken, I took the kitten to the vets after even more diareah, blood and mucus in it also.
Vet told me that actually I have been overfeeding the poor mite!!! That he couldnt beleive people on this forum were telling me to feed the kittens 600g a day as this was like half their body weight! It would be like us eating half our body weight and it's exactly when us humans eat too much we get the runs! He advised to cut it down to 200g a day (as even his cat only eats 300g a day) so now kitten is on a mix of Royal Canin Sensitivity and Bozita jelly. They eat around 250g a day each and yes, the runs have stopped, the constant pooing has stopped and I have happy kittens.
If a VET has told me that I have been advised on this forum wrongly, maybe people should make sure the advise they give on here is true before ''dishing'' it out?????
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I did contact the vets and listened to THEIR advise the first time he had diareah and took their advise. Nobody needs to get on their soap box, kitten is fine now and that's all that matters. Just wanted to warn others about listening to advise on forums and yes your right ALWAYS seek vet advise and take advise on forums/Internet with a pinch of salt
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I did everything I could for my kitten, so making any sort of accusation that it was somehow my fault or I didn't follow advise is disgusting and you as caring pet owners should be ashamed of yourself.
No you should be ashamed of yourself!

I'd also like to point out that you didn't mention your kittens had diarrhea in the other thread, you in fact gave the impression of the opposite:

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Okay what about the pooing? Is 6 times a day normal? And these are certainly not small poos lol xx
Now, if it were me I think I'd mention if they had diarrhea at that point.
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

I think your first complaint should be to the RCVS. Any vet who is prepared to put you through weeks of worry by diagnosing and suggesting treatment over the phone without seeing the animal is falling far short of the minimum required standards.
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

This is an internet forum. And very good though it is, coming on here and asking for advice is no substitute for taking a poorly cat to the vet. That is, actually taking the cat to the vet, not phoning the vet up.
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Old 29-10-2011, 03:00 PM
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

Am I the only one getting the impression that this is just another bridge dweller?
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

I have just read over the few threads that you have made that deal with your new kittens and the food they should be getting and personally I think you have been given sound advice. At no point have you been told that your kittens SHOULD be eating 600g of food a day. Indeed, you yourself acknowledge that kittens (in general but not necessarily yours - COULD eat that amount).

And at no point that I can see did you mention that they have diarrhoea; you only mention that they poop a heck of a lot. And not sure who told you to rush your kitten to the vet with that diarrhoea but I wish you would have heeded that advice instead of waiting WEEKS to take him in.

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Hi,
I used this forum a few months ago when I first got my new kittens. One of them had terrible diareah and they were both pooing around 7 times a day! I asked for advise in this forum about kitten feeding and kitten pooing and were advised kittens could eat as much as 600g a day each! I was advised by members to rush my kitten into the vet with diareah.
After weeks of worrying, phone calls to the vets and putting the kitten on fresh cooked chicken, I took the kitten to the vets after even more diareah, blood and mucus in it also.
Vet told me that actually I have been overfeeding the poor mite!!! That he couldnt beleive people on this forum were telling me to feed the kittens 600g a day as this was like half their body weight! It would be like us eating half our body weight and it's exactly when us humans eat too much we get the runs! He advised to cut it down to 200g a day (as even his cat only eats 300g a day) so now kitten is on a mix of Royal Canin Sensitivity and Bozita jelly. They eat around 250g a day each and yes, the runs have stopped, the constant pooing has stopped and I have happy kittens.
If a VET has told me that I have been advised on this forum wrongly, maybe people should make sure the advise they give on here is true before ''dishing'' it out?????
Actually I don't see anyone getting on their soap boxes but you wrongly accuse people on here of giving you potentially dangerous advice and they are just putting you right. Sorry, but that is not standing on soap boxes.

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I did contact the vets and listened to THEIR advise the first time he had diareah and took their advise. Nobody needs to get on their soap box, kitten is fine now and that's all that matters. Just wanted to warn others about listening to advise on forums and yes your right ALWAYS seek vet advise and take advise on forums/Internet with a pinch of salt

No, you should be ashamed of yourself for misrepresenting what people here have said and failing to see a vet when the diarrhoea didn't resolve itself within a few days.

However, it just goes to show that no matter how carefully one words one advice, it can still be misconstrued. I think instead of you coming away from this believing that things on a forum need to be taken with a pinch of salt (which is, however, also true), you need to READ more carefully what you are being told.

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I did everything I could for my kitten, so making any sort of accusation that it was somehow my fault or I didn't follow advise is disgusting and you as caring pet owners should be ashamed of yourself.
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Re: Kitten Overfeeding

@ gemma, as you said the main thing is kitten is well and we all learn from experience. Unlike our cats who might be 'purr fect' we all are human and we are not perfect as much as we might like to think ourselves to be.

It is sad to be pointing the finger back as to who said what, who thought what, who did what- main thing right here and now is that you have a healthy kitten, now that is something to be thankful for and it sounds like people who have responded to this thread are genuinely offering their appreciation for this.

We are not here to give advice merely to make suggestions and it wouldn't be integral for any of us to do otherwise. It was understandable for you to ask like minded cat owners, who I hasten to add from what I have encountered love their fur ball (s) to bits, back then when you were having issues with the kittens, however what ever was given to you, is for you to take away to weigh and to test rather than to take it as gospel, even the most qualified are humans and for me, no matter what my vet says, not that I do not trust him, I will ask questions and go do some more research myself- it's part of my learning and growing as a person as well as to become better informed as an individual.

Gemma, hope you will continue to use PF as there are a lovely bunch of people, we all come from different places, maybe in this opportunity we have to interact with one another in the context of community, we can learn to be more forgiving, be respectful we are not always going to agree with another, yet we take responsibility for the welfare of our own animals as well as respect we are humans and not perfect, just all in the same boat, 'under construction'

And try not to tar with the same brush the 'whole' when not to invalidate your feelings and what had happened, however if one were to take a step back from the way you seemed to have reacted and vent out, perhaps this may help you assess from another angle, to be objective than subjective and in turn see the 'part' hence response coming back next time (if you choose to post again on this thread) will be diplomatic and back to focus on the good thing in all of this is that, kitten is healthy and you are wiser now with the information you have gained, hence now in a position to maybe assist someone else who crosses your path in similar or same predicament. This to me far outweighs the 'niggle'- I appreciate it would have been a difficult time for you and speak for others who have no doubt gone through similar and much worse to the point of losing a kitten. Yes I also want to acknowledge and to affirm your love and care in wanting to do the best thing to take care of your kittens.

I do believe in life, whether it's good thing or not so good experience, is more about how we respond to it that counts.

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Old 29-10-2011, 09:32 PM
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I am sorry, but even though I wasn't even active on this forum when you were given this advice, I do feel you are contradicting yourself in a terrible way....

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I was advised by members to rush my kitten into the vet with diareah.
Apparently you did not heed this advice, for you continue by saying:
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After weeks of worrying, phone calls to the vets and putting the kitten on fresh cooked chicken, I took the kitten to the vets after even more diareah, blood and mucus in it also.
Then you suddenly state that:
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I did contact the vets and listened to THEIR advise the first time he had diareah and took their advise.
And you are blaming others
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If a VET has told me that I have been advised on this forum wrongly, maybe people should make sure the advise they give on here is true before ''dishing'' it out?????
Methinks it would be better if you got your facts right before you start dishing it out.....
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