In that situation it would have the desired effect.Nobody wants their cat to burn its pads.You needed an instant ,sharp,shock and it worked,saving your cat from possibe injury.

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mmmm here we go again - I remember having a similar argument GLOWORM*MUSHROOM with you regarding young kittens....
I believe we ARE substitute parents to our kittens (and indeed puppies) how else do they learn boundaries and how to behave acceptably if we don't teach them???
As for your rather RUDE suggestion that I am QUOTE "ragging the poor thing around" UNQUOTE is totally unfounded - I have been suggested ways of dealing with my kittens behaviour to protect my young daughter, nothing that is harmful to him at all, and a way that animals in the wild would discipline each other (and a way my dog also relates her feelings to my kitten when he goes too far)!
My daughter was able to put into practice the 'pinning down' method (under close supervision) this morning when Louii started on her and did it perfectly - Louii was not hurt or distressed and reaslised very quickly this behaviour was not going to be tolerated!!
So in my opinion we have already found a method that will prevent my daughter being hurt and Louii will learn he is not the dominant one (another thing the vet told me yesterday)!
We will always have to agree to disagree on our opinions of whether or not it is a 'socialisation' problem - if Louii was hurting everyone in my house hold then i probably would think differently but he is not....therefore it is nothing to do with what age he left his mother......

Well then why are you considering rehoming him?

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Just wanted to say good luck & hope you manage to get things sorted ((however you choose to do it))

I imagine rehoming has been brought up as a child is being harmed.

I must admit, I use a light scruffing method. I don't by any means do it in a hard or rough way, but sometimes it does warrant it. Storm has this insatiable need to be in the middle of things, including when I cook so if I turn around he used to hop up right next to or on to the hob. There is an obvious risk with that, if I'm cooking and one of the circles is switched on then he could burn himself quite badly. I have in those instances where there is a huge danger to himself swiftly plonked him on to the floor and lightly scruffed his neck. I am scared to hurt him so I've never scruffed him hard, just a ight hold at the back of the neck but because of the association with being told off by mummycat, I've noticed he relaxes after a few seconds and understands that what he was doing was naughty. He still gets up on the worktop, which I'm happy for him to do, but he sits away from the hob.

I would NEVER scruff him roughly or hold him down in anger, or do it for minor offences like bunny-kicking the licing daylight out of my arm, a sharp no and walking away works for that, but where I consider something to be a danger to him I can only see that it has made him learn quickly for his own benefit, that he can't go on to the hob.

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Mummy to;

Sooty 9.6.1996 - 28.04.2011 Rest in peace my love!
Storm (Sueragdandy Phantom) 28.02.2010
Benji (Kassaro Benjamin Franklyn) 08.03.2011

BECAUSE he was biting my daughter AND DRAWING BLOOD!!!!!!!

BUT if we manage to stop this (and I feel more positive now that we can.....) Louii is in his 'forever home'!!!
Seriously GLOWORM*MUSHROOM can you honestly say if one of your pets was really causing damage to your own child (an adult can deal with it... ) you would not look into every avenue of help INCLUDING rehoming??????

THIS is where my posting ends (on this topic anyway...)!
Thanks everyone for your comments & help

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