Oh and I just wanted to ask, are you getting Page to sit with you when you have the baby with you? That way he will be getting used to the baby smell and won't be so threatened. Are you also ensuring you spend some time with just him? (though perhaps having the baby blanket with you so again the smell is introduced)

Sorry for asking, it's just I didn't see it in your orginal posting.

Also, just wanted to add, that although it must be really hard work for you, 4 months is not a long time, and even human siblings take longer than that to get used to having a new baby in the house. They can also tend to regress and pee everywhere so it is a very natural jealousy instinct to get attention - even though I totally understand it leaves you even more tired, upset and confused.

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thank you for all your replies.

I have to take our dog to the vet tonight, so i will ask again about Page and insist on getting his urine tested.

I looked up the symptoms of UTI and the only one he is displaying is the urinating in strange places, he passes LOADS of urine and as he is bold as brass and has done it right in front of me there doesn't seem to be any discomfort for him. But i really want to get it ruled out as i would hate to think of him suffering.

Apart from the urinating he is not bothered by the baby at all. He will come and lie on me when i have her in my arms, and doesn't run off if she is screaming etc. He really is such a mild mannered cat. Like i say he has taken to urinating out of his litter before during change, when my husband first moved in with us, when we moved, when we got the dog, but he always righted himself after a few weeks.

I don't think it is related to the scent being left either as he will pee on anything that i leave lying out. e.g. i left a tea towel lying on the oven and peed on that!

As for the garden it literally backs onto the road so there is no way of cat proofing it. We have tried a harness on him but he just freaks out with any noise and ends up almost hung trying to bolt! The times he has escaped out of the door he copes much better than being on his harness. My husband keeps saying to let him out, but i am just so scared to. He has been an indoor cat for 8 years and apart from traffic, he is so super friendly i would be scared someone was cruel to him as some people loathe cats and he would approach people.

Oh i am rambling a bit now, it is just so upsetting. And the thought of him being unhappy makes me so sad as we all love him very much.

I will see what the vet says tonight.

thanks again

It's interesting that you mention him doing this when your husband moved in.

Sam doesn't urinate everywhere when he's .... displeased (the best word I can find) about something, but he does destroy furniture, walls and doorframes. And I really do mean destroy them. Fortunately, we've managed to patch up most of the damage, or fill and paint/paper over claw marks on interior walls, but some of our wooden furniture is beyond repair.

The worst he's ever been was when my partner moved in. He was angry with me for 6 months, and would claw things right in front of me, looking round to make sure I was paying attention. I got so stressed over it that I'm amazed our relationship survived those first 6 months. When he wasn't being destructive, he was his usual affectionate self. Eventually, my partner won him round, but it was a very difficult time for all of us.

My guess is that Page will come round ..... eventually.

18 months ago my neighbours had a baby, and both their cats refuse to go inside their house anymore, and have basically moved into mine, despite me having 5 cats of my own, and at one time, two SBT's. Oh and a rabbit that hates ginger cats which are what these two are.

For six months i refused them entry to my house, i made sure they didnt have access to food on my property, but when last winters snow hit, they just took to sleeping under my greenhouse, or in a tiny old dog kennel we set up for hedgehogs. So they ended up gradually coming into the house, where they now spend 99% of their time, unless their owners are out in the garden without the baby.

The most they will do now is sit on the wall and stare in the house. As soon as the baby moves or makes a sound, they bolt. Their owners are hoping that as their kid gets older, the cats may be more settled and happy to go back home, and for now we're all happy with the foster situation. But im just not convinced that all cats will adapt and become accepting, as these people have really tried their best, but to no avail, and the health of a child must comes first.

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that was like my twix, he was still peeing rivers as normal, no discoloration and would do it right in front of me (once walked up right beside me, scratched my hoodie on the sofa and then peed in it ) he was still peeing in the normal position as opposed to the strained position the vets showed me also so nothing other than the peeing outside the tray was out of the ordinary. i insisted they checked anyway as i needed something concrete (have a baby on the way and needed to work on a solution) and turned out he had a really bad uti according to the test strip i couldn`t believe my boy was sick and i never knew! they just gave him some jabs there and then and some pills to take home (although i had to take these back and have a long lasting anti-b jab as he won`t take pills) and they gave him food specifically for uti`s to eat and told me to take him off dried food. that was a week ago now and i`m rarely finding any wet patches in places now, still the odd couple but he`s slowly going back to using his tray again so it must be making a difference, i got him a water fountain too to try and encourage him to drink more.

good luck at the vets, since he`s still passing urine then i wouldn`t think there was any blockage so sounds similar to twix and his has been easily rectified (or so it seems) will keep my fingers crossed for you and your boy

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Hi How did you get on at the vets?

Unrelated but... My now 20 year old oldest son was 3 when his brother was born. He took to weeing all over the house previously potty /toilet trained but my did he push his luck. This went on for about 3 months but i have managed to get my own back over the years as a hot topic of disscussion with new girlfriends

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If he is given the all clear for UTI, then I would suggest the cat would benefit from a course of Clomicalm. This worked a miracle for my spraying neuter male. I know some people "disapprove" of using medication, but if it comes to the decision between rehoming or meds, I know which I will take without a seconds' thought. Discuss with your vet to prescribe some. It is safe to take in the longer term as well. He may be dopey for the first 24 hours, then will adjust. If not, halve the dose (5 mg) to 2.5 mg. Feliway, as good as it is, is not always effective for inappropriate spraying.

I remember when my first baby was born my cat Buster got VERY stressed and resorted to over-grooming and made the backs of his lets bald and red raw We took him to the vet and he put him on a course of anti-depressants the feline equivalent of prozac

It sorted him out very quickly and he then went back to his normal self very soon.

I'm hoping that your little kitty cat will be more settled very quickly.

Mr Cheese was ok when my son now 3 was born but his brother Chicken Stu wasnt happy at all...he left the house one morning and would only return to say hi to Mr Cheese. As soon as i came near him he jumped on me and attacked me. I had cuts and bruises everywhere. Luckily an old lady took him in but did make me sad for ages.