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Old 25-03-2010, 12:50 PM
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Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

Hi there

Wondered if anyone can advise on a VERY VERY strange situation.

I took my Birman into the vets today to be neutered, after a few hours I got a phone call to say she was pregnant.

Now Nala is an indoor only cat and has NEVER been outside in her life, I also have no cat flap, no open windows etc. so there is no way any male cat has come indoors either.

She does live with two male cats, one of which was neutered 2 1/2 years ago and the other was neutered 6 months ago.

As she never goes out one of these HAS to be the father but how is this possible??

Their testicles were removed, has anyone ever known a cat to be fertile after this?

I know they are fertile for a while but not months afterwards surely, they say she is 100% pregnant, I was convinced they made a mistake as I just can't see how. They think she is about 4 weeks into it.

I have asked them to not neuter but as they had already put her under anesthetic and opened her up before realising there is a chance the kittens may not survive now.

I am so shocked, I just cannot understand how this has hapened!
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Old 25-03-2010, 12:53 PM
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

Could somebody else of let her out by accident maybe and not told you?
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Old 25-03-2010, 12:56 PM
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

......oh my god !!!! i bet your in shock, you poor thing. they have got the right cat havent they, you dont think they have muddled her up with a pregnant cat in the vets ??????? fingers crossed the kittens are ok.
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

Oh dear what a situation for you....hope the kitties are ok, will this cause probs with the birth if they've already opened her up? The scar I mean....xx
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

They have definately got the right cat yes, she is the only Birman in there and there is no way anyone has let her out.

She is scared stiff of the outdoors and if the front door opens she runs and hides, plus it's just me and my partner here who is as shocked as I am.

We are about to go and pick her up now.

I wish they could say what colour they are so we can establish if any of the males are still fertile.

I am taking them both down with me as well so they can check them.

It's just impossible, I can't believe it.

Really hoping the babies make it now and feel really guilty for not noticing anything, the vet says they don't have much chance sadly.

If I had of known then I wouldn't have taken her for neutering and they would have been fine, how can this of happened?
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Oh dear what a situation for you....hope the kitties are ok, will this cause probs with the birth if they've already opened her up? The scar I mean....xx
I really don't know. The kittens don't have much chance now sadly but we are hoping anyway.

She had a litter last year that were born premature, she needed a c-section and all the kittens died sadly. This is why we were neutering her as she wasn't very good as a breeding female.
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

Oh nooo! I hope they do survive! Sending good thoughts your way!

Actually, my friend is an Animal Science lecturer at Myerscough college near Preston and when I got Felix neutered she said that they can stay fertile for upto 4 months in some cases. It wasn't a problem for me as both females in the house were spayed long ago. But that is probably your answer. xx
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

OMG Thats a shock!

I really hope they survive,sending postive vibes your way.

Do your males not spray? Only saying that because Horris sprayed like crazy before he got his balls chopped off.
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They have definately got the right cat yes, she is the only Birman in there and there is no way anyone has let her out.

She is scared stiff of the outdoors and if the front door opens she runs and hides, plus it's just me and my partner here who is as shocked as I am.

We are about to go and pick her up now.

I wish they could say what colour they are so we can establish if any of the males are still fertile.

I am taking them both down with me as well so they can check them.

It's just impossible, I can't believe it.

Really hoping the babies make it now and feel really guilty for not noticing anything, the vet says they don't have much chance sadly.

If I had of known then I wouldn't have taken her for neutering and they would have been fine, how can this of happened?
dont beat yourself up about it, you didnt know she was pregnant, its so sad that the kittens may not make it, but please dont blame yourself,sending you a big "HUG " and praying that alll goes well.xxxxxxx
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Old 25-03-2010, 01:19 PM
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Re: Absolutely gobsmacked and need advice !!

Males can be fertile for 4 months !!!

The vet told me 2-3 weeks.

She is 4 weeks pregnant and he was neutered 6 months ago so he if he is the father then he imprenated her 5 months after neutering, that seems a little un-reasonable and I just can't see it happening.

Plus we would have noticed them mating etc. as they are both house cats.

He dosn't spray and never has, he was neutered at 6 months old as was my other male so they were both neutered before they began spraying and they have never shown signs of being sexually active.

If one of them was fertile I would have expected the other females pregnant as well but had them all neutered within the last few months except for Mia who is off to be scanned today.

Nala (the pregnant one) hasn't even been in season for gods sake! Her last season was October last year and nothing since, we were originally planning on taking her to stud and letting her have another litter so was waiting for her season to come, however we later changed our minds and decided to neuter her.
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