Certainly that is an obvious use of the non-active register, I have used it that way myself when there was some fault I thought might be genetic. However it's clear to me that the overwhelming majority of kittens sold on the non-active register are registered that way because the breeder either does not want anyone else breeding from her kittens or because she wants to be sure about any potential breeders first or simply because she wants more money to sell a kittens for breeding. In other words it's less about how good the cat is and more about who is going to be doing the breeding.

Lzi

When I got Bailey and Cleo, I wasn't given the pink slip till I could provide proof of neutering.

I'm glad you didn't let this lady have your little boy. She was obviously lying to you and trying to convince you she wanted him for just show. Why would she suddenly back out when you mention keeping the slip till proof of neutering.

There are so many time wasters/untrustworthy people out there... ya have to be very careful.

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The advert web link was not a breeder website - it was one of the many, many kitten adverts that appear on ebay or google searches.

Incidently I was talking today to an owner of a Bengal cat who got it from what she described as a cattery. A breeder who kept her quenns and kittens in outdoor cages!

She subsequently bought a Bengal kitten and Norwegian Forest Cat kitten from a breeder who socialised her kittens amongst children, dogs and in the home and she said there was a remarkable difference in temprement. I found that really interesting.

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Sadly sometimes i think the people that buy/aqquire cats/kittens from places they feel are not as they should be only enable and encourage these kind of people to do what they do.But i understand that a lot of people follow their heart and emotions as opposed to not,and doing this is easier said than done

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Burnthwaites Siamese

OK I'm still being dense perhaps, but this lady came with her Mum who claims to breed Devons, and you found an ad of hers for Devons, with the daughter's mobile number. I'm afraid I really don't see the problem with a mother and daughter working together, it's hardly unknown in the cat fancy. What exactly is it that makes you say she is lying???

Liz

Don't think it was the fact that is was mum and daughter working together Liz,it was a combination of various things that she felt didn't add upIf you read the previous posts properly you will see

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Burnthwaites Siamese

She lied about her other cat caramel oriental being a show neuter and he is not neutered, she is selling si rex, and the fact she only gives out a mobile is strange, and she wanted the cat right up until i said i would keep the pink slip until he is neutered. When she was here she was more interested in the amount of champions on the pedigree than she was with fussing the kitten, and also her silence now she has been caught out is a bit strange!! i offered to deliver the cat when he was ready and she was'nt keen on the idea.
When people email me i always give my landline number and offer for them to call me for a chat, which most of the time people do, but this woman did'nt and was'nt very chatty when she was here, so maybe worried she would say something she shouldnt.

Anyway this little boy has now been reserved, a man and his kids came yesterday and fell in love with him and he was purring and happy round the kids and curled up and went to sleep on one of theire laps so that to me is a good sign! and he is willing to let me hang on to the papers until he is neutered!

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Also if they are her mums kittens, why not give a proper contact name and not coolcats! and surely one of them must have a landline number?

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Ok I admit I have little knowledge of either Devons or Siamese / Orientals, and also of course you are quite right to be concerned first about the kitten's welfare. I wouldn't have wanted to sell a kitten to someone who was more interested in the pedigree than the kitten either. And I'm glad you've now found a buyer you are happy with. With all that said I still don't understand.

You know that, presumably, from a show catalogue or from someone with personal knowledge of this person?

yes but surely you can't breed an oriental to a devon and register the kittens as si-rex in the first generation? And if you wanted a first generation cross wouldn't you start with Siamese instead so that all the kittens would carry siamese points? And in any case she could not register the kittens so why would she go about it that way anyway if she's involved in breeding GCCF registered kittens which is what the ad says?

Not strange at all with youngsters these days, there are plenty who only have mobiles.

if she is genuinely wanting a show neuter then I find this entirely understandable. I wouldn't want to buy a kitten for show and then find I couldn't show it for three months!

Now one could well ask why someone with an interest in breeding devons wants a show neuter at all, let alone of a different breed, but there could be a reason - living in a flat perhaps and limited to one cat, devons being her mother's breed and daughter fancying something different whilst being interested in the show scene. That doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. Neither does giving just an identity on an ad - most people on this forum have just an identity after all, some people are very nervous about making personal details available over the internet.

Liz