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Old 17-11-2009, 03:10 PM
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How can you say hiv/filv blood test is not worth the paper its written on i dont understand,if an outside queen has got something,shell pass it on to all my queens! which i would have to spay!??

Because a newly infected animal will still show as negative on a test - or so I understand.
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How can you say hiv/filv blood test is not worth the paper its written on i dont understand,if an outside queen has got something,shell pass it on to all my queens! which i would have to spay!??
Because it is only 90% accurate (that is, the one usually done at vets) and you have no way of knowing whether the queen is actually incubating the disease in question, if it is the test will be negative even though the queen is infectious!

There is not one known case of FIV being passed through sexual contact, it isn't going to happen unless she bites the boy, and they don't wait around long enough to be bitten. Plus she has to catch it herself first - by being bitten by an FIV positive cat.

And for FeLV there is a very effective vaccine, besides which the way that is spread (shared food dishes etc) is easy to avoid totally, just put the girl in with the stud for actual matings.

Obviously if you want to insist on a 24 hour test that is your right, you are in the majority and no-one is going to argue with you. Just don't imagine it gives your cats any more protection than getting them vaccinated against FeLV and using supervised matings, it doesn't!

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well with mine, my vets write a letter to say the tests were negative and which cat it was, when it was carried out etc etc
but what i mean is how can you tell if a queen owner has the cat with them, who the tests are for. they could take a healthy cat to the vet but bring a different cat to stud. i know it's not likely but it could happen if you use a vet who is not familiar with who your cats are.
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Old 17-11-2009, 04:02 PM
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Vets letter means nothing nowadays. I know of a situation where a 'friend' of the stud owner bought in her cat together with a letter from her vet on headed paper, saying said cat had tested negative etc. Queen in question even had a shaved front leg!

The stud owner was slightly suspicious when queen and test results were handed over with a comment "you can check them if you like". It played on her mind after putting the queen in with the stud, and did check. The vet hadn't seen the queen. Stud owner phoned the queens owner who admitted she had made the headed paper on her PC, and hadn't taken the cat to the vet for a test at all, as she couldn't afford it. All the worry that followed testing her stud and worrying about him etc caused her to give up.
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hmmm yes i know what u mean - i guess if you had 2 queens the same colour it could happen if they look similar.
Very easily! Espscially if your vet has a system whereby any newer breeds simply go down as "other pedigree" and you have a newer breed. My vet would not know one Asian shorthair from another or from an Egyptian Mau I am sure.

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Stud owner phoned the queens owner who admitted she had made the headed paper on her PC, and hadn't taken the cat to the vet for a test at all, as she couldn't afford it. All the worry that followed testing her stud and worrying about him etc caused her to give up.
Somehow I doubt if the queen's owner lasted very long either!

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A decent while after that, but did eventually give up, but for other reasons.
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I think i've got past the stage of being shocked about anything in the cat fancy!!

I do ask for a FeLV/FIV test from visiting queens and my boy is tested himself, however I'm not obsessive about it and I don't expect the queen to be tested within 24 hours of coming to stud, within 2 weeks or so is fine with me if she is an indoor cat. If it's someone I know, and have visited etc then I probably wouldn't worry about the test.
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Yes - it takes about 21 days after infection for a FeLV blood test to show positive.


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