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Old 02-11-2009, 08:46 PM
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Hi - can anyone tell me what colours I would get if a put a solid cream girl to a solid blue boy
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Re: Solid colours

cream boys, blue tortie girls - if both carry nothing
cream boys, blue tortie and lilac tortie girls if both carry chocolate
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Re: Solid colours

Cream, blue, tortie - if both carry choc then lilac, pale cream & lilac tortie too
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Re: Solid colours

the boy has solid blue lines - not sure about the girl - I am a small hoby breeder just starting up - have only bred blue and lilac - have been offered a cream girl but not sure
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thanks for that - think I will stick to blue and lilac
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the boy has solid blue lines - not sure about the girl - I am a small hoby breeder just starting up - have only bred blue and lilac - have been offered a cream girl but not sure
Well...... cream is a combination of the red gene (called Orange) plus blue. It is blue-based. Breeding her to your blue can only ever produce other blue based colours, (never black, choc, red etc.)

It will produce Tortie as that is part & parcel of the Orange gene, but they will be dilute (blue-based) torties only.

If both parents carry colourpoint you might also get cream/blue/tort CPs.

Offhand, there's not anything else I can think of that could be carried, so it's a pretty safe bet on what you'll get.
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Well...... cream is a combination of the red gene (called Orange) plus blue. It is blue-based. Breeding her to your blue can only ever produce other blue based colours, (never black, choc, red etc.)

It will produce Tortie as that is part & parcel of the Orange gene, but they will be dilute (blue-based) torties only.

If both parents carry colourpoint you might also get cream/blue/tort CPs.

Offhand, there's not anything else I can think of that could be carried, so it's a pretty safe bet on what you'll get.
cream isn't blue based - cream is dilute red - so it is red based - so unless the girl is put to either another cream or a red all girls will be tortie.

it can only carry chocolate - if it has blue it is blue/cream (or blue tortie) not a cream
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cream isn't blue based - cream is dilute red - so it is red based - so unless the girl is put to either another cream or a red all girls will be tortie.
it can only carry chocolate - if it has blue it is blue/cream (or blue tortie) not a cream
Whoah yes it is blue-based - it is a combination of the blue dilution gene (d) aka Maltese dilution plus red. So, depending on your viewpoint it is red based and blue based

As the OP was asking about a blue stud, it was easier to explain it using blue as the base (which both have).
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Ah, now according to the birman cat club the 'blue' gene is a misnomer and it is really a dilute gene - so dilute seal is blue, dilute chocolate is lilac and dilute red is cream. Blue is a very confusing term that (in my experience of genetic teaching/ learning) is incorrect but used on a regualr basis instead of dilute.

i.e cream is red and dilute based
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Ah, now according to the birman cat club the 'blue' gene is a misnomer and it is really a dilute gene - so dilute seal is blue, dilute chocolate is lilac and dilute red is cream. Blue is a very confusing term that (in my experience of genetic teaching/ learning) is incorrect but used on a regualr basis instead of dilute.

i.e cream is red and dilute based
Yes, that's fair enough. Just a question to find a way to explain that without bogging down a novice It is a dilute gene as you said... I've had a lot of experience of working with the same gene in rabbits, rats & mice as well as cats when I bred Orientals.
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