I paid £50 for half siamese not vaccinated kittens. They are fine cats and I think it was a good price since some people try charge alot more. Sometimes accidents happen.

what is wrong with bob martins? at least the owners are trying to do what is best for the kittens in giving them some flea protection.

This is one thing I really don't get... although I'm not very well read up on the subject, so maybe I can't comment.

...I'm a moggie lover, always have been, always will be, but I don't see what the harm is in crossing or not crossing.

When a ped breeder says they breed to preserve/improve their breed, I think thats great, but that to me is a reason to do it their way, it is not a reason not to do it another way...if ya get what I mean.
To try and clarify, I don't understand why it is bad to cross, I only understand why it is good to pure breed.

oh................

yes exactly where do you draw the line?

Bob Martin's is flea repellent not flea killer so unless you are dosing yourself and your house and everything else that comes in, you aren't really protecting anything. they can still breed in your house and be eaten by your pets and cause worm infections. their wormers don't cover the worms they need to and can lead owners to believe they do. not to mention bob martin's doesn't make it clear about using the dog and cat versions and many cats come in with dog treatment and don't make it out of the vets. ask any vets office or anyone that works with animals professionally Bob Martins is a waste of money.


I even wonder if the Siamese is a pure bred. this said 'breeder' has been told off a few times for over breeding one of her queens as well. you should see the state of the poor thing. they finally were convinced to let us spay her as she was in horrible state, she was a chinchilla cross and was being bred with a moggie to make chinchilla cross kittens to sell for even more than the Siamese crosses! I would even doubt that the Siamese only mated with one of her 'studs' ...toms.
i can understand accidents happen but these are not accidents. just money makers.
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Alot of those cross bred cats come from cats that were sold as pets, i wouldnt want a kitten i sold as a pet to be bred from.

They might of been sold as pet only for a reason,

My kittens are B blood group, if a female was bred to a moggy or another breed with an A blood, those kittens would almost certainly die a terrible death.

If a male B was bred to an A ,Those kittens would carry B, if they were then bred to an A probably around half would die.

I dont think these people who cross breeds even bother to look into things like blood grouping.

i know makes me mad but i can't say anything and my boss can only advise her not to do it. he can't make her it really upsets the lot of us working there.

but why do we need to draw a line?

is the blood grouping only with certain breeds? this is new to me and i'm very interested in learning about it. even working where i work we don't get many breeders in as some breeders don't 'need' the vets really unless there are issues. we have a couple but they are either really busy and i never see them or they always have problems and i don't really want to ask them!! lol

Couldnt you tell her your not going to put her adds up any more, i know it wont stop her but if people see an add in a vets surgery it might give them the impression they are well bred kittens or something.

just a thought