This is purely a sounding out question..i do not want critisism or any s**t for this.
Ok forgive me if it comes out a bit messy.
As you know my cat has recently had kittens.
She is a pedigree and the kits were fathered by a mongrel(that word always sounds harsh as a cat is a cat to me).

Ok, originally i wanted to mate her with a pedigree persian.
And my question is as she is such a very good mummy would i be wrong to breed her now with a pedigree?
Would a breeder accept her as she has mated with a mongrel?
She is up to date with all vet checks.
Also i would want her to have a long rest before breeding again,so what is an acceptable time between kittening.

I adore my cat and will always do my best by her..this is not for money at all.
It is just something i have always wanted to do and i would appreciate all good advice before going in to this.
Please be kind with answers as i already know she shouldnt have mated with a mongrel if i had wanted to breed from her.

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I can see no reason why not!

She will need some tests just before going to stud in any case - just as you need to check the stud cat has had his.

I don't know what breed Coco is, but if she's not a Persian herself or an Exotic you might find stud owners unwilling to take her. She must be registered in your name, with pedigree and on the Active breeding register (GCCF - not sure about TICA).

As she may not call again til the spring (that depends on the individual cat!) then looking at taking her to stud next March at the earliest, giving her a good long rest.

I'm sure others will be along soon to add more.

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She is a pedigree exotic shorhair but i dont have papers as the ladies mother had died and she sold her cheaper as she didnt have time to sort it out.
She is a breeder and still is, not sure what i should do there as she says she only sold as a pet and not to breed.

I know she is a reputable breeder but wont accept my cat to mate as she is now apparently damaged goods.

I hope this is not the end of the road for Cocoa and someone will accept her as she has had all health checks and vaccs.

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its unlikely that someone will let you use their stud as she is not registered as an active. if she had been registered then it really would be a different story

Oh dear... I think that may be her way of saying she was sold as a pet only and not for breeding! Your cat can't be damaged by having a moggy litter. The only way that could happen would be if she had picked up FeLV or possibly FIV (less likely) from her moggy husband.

Years ago there was a silly belief that if an animal had produced a 'mongrel' or cross-breed litter it would affect subsequent litters, so either this breeder is hopelessly old fashioned and known nothing about genetics, or she's using it as an excuse, I'm sad to say.

I don't know whether Exotics also need to be health checked for PKD these days or not, and/or blood-type tested?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I'm afraid there's not much you can do

If you really want to breed pedigree cats, then maybe the way forward would be to have Cocoa spayed and start over with another girl registered on the Active, from a good and conscientious breeder.

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Thing is cocoas sister who my brother bought(without papers also) is with her now to be mated with one of her males as she is pure and unbred.
She wont accept mine.
He has to pay her £250 for the mating.

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I'd put this down to experience and look around for another girl from a better breeder.

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In my opinion I would neuter her as she has no papers and so really it's not ideal as any decent stud owner will not accept a girl who is non on the active. Sorry.

If you want to do it right, as you say, then why not look for a good breeder who will sell you an active girl and who can advise you on what stud to use etc..


Ok, you will have to pay more for a new kitten on the active, you will have to pay for the snap test and stud fees but at least you will have gone about it the right way. And, your girl will be safe with a Stud Owner who don't take in non reg cats, that to me just spells trouble. Who knows what the stud could be carrying?!

And also, with persians/exotics is there not tests that need to be done to make sure they are not carrying a certain inherited disease?

thats very unusual but she may be worried that your cat has caught something that she would pass on to her stud however i doubt you would get your girl mated with any other breeder, as merlins mum said, if you are seriously thinking about breeding pedigrees then you would be best breeding from a new queen on the active register

If she's selling kittens without papers then taking them to her stud also without papers then she isn't a reputable breeder at all. For instance the owner of a GCCF stud can get in some sort of official trouble for accepting any non-active registered queens. If she's producing unregistered kittens and offering stud to unregistered queens she is essentially (please don't kill me, this is meant as no slight against you at all) a BYB. While I don't doubt Cocoa is a stunner of an exotic (she looks lovely in your icon!) if she has no papers she is technically not a pedigree.

If you'd like to breed pedigree persians I'm afraid I have to agree with Merlinsmum. Get your lovely Cocoa spayed and live out her days as a much loved pet and get another girl, registered active, and breed from her instead. It's the only way you'll be able to use a 'proper' stud and register the litter.