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Old 26-01-2012, 02:18 PM
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Re: colour genetics help please

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Yes, if you want to breed a particular colour you need to know. If OTOH you want to breed stunning cats with really good type then maybe the one with the best type, or the one that is strongest in the areas your queen is weak in might be the one to choose.
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I have always chosen the lilac point stud (we have had three litters from him and a fourth due next month with my younger queen) mainly because I love the colours but he and Mai Tai do produce some stunning babies (even if I say so myself) just a shame that because of the silver in her pedigree, they can't be shown , though none of their owners have worried about that.
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It's all maths so you should be fine! A chap called Roy Robinson wrote a very good book about cat coat genetics, not sure if it's still in print. Otherwise there is lots online. In the end it comes down to knowing the genotype of each cat, drawing a bit box and filling in what might come out. However a friend did several matings with her lilac-point BSH that should have produced a lilac self, the cat had 14 kittens from the 2 matings (6 then 8!) but no lilac self.
Ah yes - that's the fun of statistics - just because statistically you should get a certain outcome x % of the time doesn't mean it will happen - ie if I flip a coin 10 times statistically you would expect that you will get 5 heads & 5 tails - doesn't stop me getting 10 heads in a row though
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It can be the same with colourpoints too. If you breed a colourpoint to a solid carrying CP, statistically, 50% of the kits should be solids, and 50% CPs, but it usually works out to be far more solids than CPs. Typical!
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Re: colour genetics help please

I always find wispering hopefully in the mum cats ear as to what I want/need in terms of boys/girls and colours means I'll get exactly the opposite of what I wanted LOL!

Next time I'm going to tell her I want what I don't want, and see if a bit of 'reverse psychology' has an effect - cunning plan or what
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Next time I'm going to tell her I want what I don't want, and see if a bit of 'reverse psychology' has an effect - cunning plan or what
Which of course will be the one time she listens and you get exactly what you asked for
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Which of course will be the one time she listens and you get exactly what you asked for

too true, even with all my careful research into pedigrees, planning and certificates in 'ologies', I think my lot delight in throwing a spanner in the works of my carefully constructed breeding plans just to remind me that they are in charge.

Then again these 'spanners' lead to more cat 'plotting' which I obviously hate doing LOL!
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Then again these 'spanners' lead to more cat 'plotting' which I obviously hate doing LOL!
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It can be the same with colourpoints too. If you breed a colourpoint to a solid carrying CP, statistically, 50% of the kits should be solids, and 50% CPs, but it usually works out to be far more solids than CPs. Typical!
My friend's experience was the other way round!
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Really? Cat's, who'd have 'em! Awkward monsters, they are!
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