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Old 21-09-2011, 11:03 AM
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Re: Do breeders get their cats tested for Feline Aids & Leukemia?

Its all so confusing and I do want to avoid having her tested for things that are unnecessary. For one its expensive (and not covered by my insurance now) and not to mention its stressful for the kitten!
Just to clarify - the stool tests have been done already for Giardia and TF which came back positive. She has not responded to Panacur to clear up the Giardia so the vet suggested we have her tested for FeLV and FIV to make sure she doesn't have these and thats the reason shes not responding to Panacur.
Thinking about it now it does seem excessive but its too late now, the tests have been done and paid for and I'd rather be sure.
Assuming she is clear of FeLV and FIV, I am waiting for her to speak to a specialist to find out about most appropriate treatment for the TF. I have now been given Metronizadole to try for the Giardia in the meantime.
She is talking about the Ronidazole treatment that some of you have mentioned but needs to check whether my kitten is suitable for it because shes so tiny.

It all seems to be taking longer than necessary and I just want to get on with treating her!
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Old 21-09-2011, 11:25 AM
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Re: Do breeders get their cats tested for Feline Aids & Leukemia?

Giardia doesn't always clear quickly with Panacur but it usually does eventually. I've heard of up to a month of treatment being necessary in some cases.

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have her tested for FeLV and FIV to make sure she doesn't have these and thats the reason shes not responding to Panacur
This doesn't make much sense to me. Both of those diseases lead to a compromised immune system but I don't understand why this would make any difference to treating parasitic problems.
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Old 21-09-2011, 11:33 AM
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Re: Do breeders get their cats tested for Feline Aids & Leukemia?

Just to clarify my understanding of the situation. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The stool test result came back on Friday BUT the Panacur had been prescribed before this to no avail. Unclear as to dose length. Metronizadole has commenced post-test results. Hope this is more effective.

I agree with you that for one reason or another ( including lab error ) that the treatment of your little one has been very protracted to say the least!

I do hope she's suitable for the Ronidazole since apparently it's the only effective treatment for TF. However it may subside once the Giardia is under control. I do hope this is the case.

Hope she's much better soon.
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Old 21-09-2011, 11:45 AM
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Giardia doesn't always clear quickly with Panacur but it usually does eventually. I've heard of up to a month of treatment being necessary in some cases..
Precisely. Furthermore considering the test results later clearly revealed there were other pathogens which could potentially be responsible for the symptoms I'm at a loss to understand why the vet still went ahead with these tests, the necessity for which no longer existed in the light of these facts! I really would like to heat her reasoning for this. It's completely beyond me!
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Old 21-09-2011, 12:15 PM
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Re: Do breeders get their cats tested for Feline Aids & Leukemia?

why is she not covered now, surely it is all to do with the same thing, or did you go to the vet after the insurance ran out?
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Old 21-09-2011, 12:52 PM
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Re: Do breeders get their cats tested for Feline Aids & Leukemia?

I'm quite cross now that from what I'm hearing it sounds like the blood tests were unnecessary and I have added to Inca's stress by taking her to the vet one time that she possibly didn't need to.
Anyway, thats done now so I'm going to focus on her ongoing treatment (assuming it doesn't show anything up).
Yes the vet gave me a 7 day course of Panacur before the stool tests came back as she suspected Giardia and as the test results were delayed by the lab she thought it was better to start a treatment than leave it another week.
By the time the test results came back positive for Giardia and TF we had completed the Panacur course but to no effect. I've since learnt on here and on the internet that Panacur doesn't cure TF, so its possible the Giardia has been cleared but we can't see it because of the TF.
But anyway I've been given Metronizadole to combat any remaining Giardia while we wait to hear about the suitability of the Ronidazole (I also hope she is suitable for it, fingers crossed).

Do you know if you can give Metronizadole and Ronidazole at the same time or will we have to finish the course of Metronidazole first??

In terms of the insurance, we had the 28 day free insurance from the breeder and then we had arranged for our own insurance to start from the day that the free insurance finished (we had arranged this before we picked her up).
The free insurance obviously covered us for the initial 28 days of treatment but we are now beyond that and our own insurance policy has a clause that says it won't cover anything that starts within the first 14 days of the policy or any pre existing condition (as most insurances do).
Either way, this was a pre existing condition before our own insurance started so anything now is not covered, including these very expensive stool / blood tests.
The money is not really the issue, its just annoying particularly when some of it is potentially unnecesary!

Thank you to everyone..
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Re: Do breeders get their cats tested for Feline Aids & Leukemia?

"She is 14 weeks and is showing no symptoms other than the diarrheoa"

If she is 14 weeks now and your insurance has already run its 28days course, that means she was only 10 weeks old when you purchased her? Thats far too young.

Panacur would have to be given for at least 8 days to kill off Giardia and then the diarrhea would not settle straight away because of the poor balance of bacteria in the gut.
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Oh my word. I had assumed the words 'come to light' meant the appropriate tests had been done. If not then I agree completely that this does start to smack of testing for profit. I did suspect it at the mention of FeLV/FIV testing to be honest and am particularly unimpressed at any vet claiming it takes days to get results when a simple (and perfectly profitable) in-house test exists.
I once went to a vet who tested for profit. Instead of giving my girl an antiobiotic, he went down the route of FeLV/FIV. All tests were negative, of course, as I expected them to be. I ended up taking her to an emergency vets who immediately prescribed antibiotics and within days, she was as right as rain. I quickly kicked that useless lump of a vet into touch.
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