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Old 19-09-2011, 09:13 AM
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Im gutted and need advice

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Im soo gutted and wanted some advice. Last week I bought a new Siamese girl for showing and breeding (yes shes active)

Ive just been to the vets to have blood tests done to make sure everything is A ok, and they have spotted a tiny umbilical hernia, they only spotted it when they had to hold her really tightly to take bloods, and then it popped out.

The vet said that he was sure that this was hereditry and could be passed on to future litters.

So ive rang the breeder who is taking her back tonight, she has offerd me another kitten from a different litter.....what do you think?
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Re: Im gutted and need advice

oh how awful, i can understand why your gutted,you must of bonded with her, and to have to return her must be so upsetting, if your taking her back tonight, why not have a look at the the other litter and see how you feel,
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Re: Im gutted and need advice

Kittens get health checks when they go for vaccinations and you've said yourself this could not have been noticed unless the kitten was being stressed and to a certain extent 'squeezed' in order to take blood. It isn't easy to take blood from a kitten and it's something I wouldn't do unless there was good reason. If there is something specific you believe may be wrong with kittens from this breeder perhaps you could ask for tests to be done before you take another. If there isn't, why subject such a young kitten to speculative testing?
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Kittens get health checks when they go for vaccinations and you've said yourself this could not have been noticed unless the kitten was being stressed and to a certain extent 'squeezed' in order to take blood. It isn't easy to take blood from a kitten and it's something I wouldn't do unless there was good reason. If there is something specific you believe may be wrong with kittens from this breeder perhaps you could ask for tests to be done before you take another. If there isn't, why subject such a young kitten to speculative testing?
I dont expect anything to be wrong with them, but Im purchasing a kitten from a breeder I dont really know anything about, a kitten which eventually I would like to use for breeding. Iam only safeguarding my own intrests as well as the wellbeing of the kitten. Lets face it if they hadnt taken blood this morning this hernia would not have been spotted. I would of gone on to breed from her and then possibly produced kitten with hernias themselves.

I think this brief discomfort for the kitten is worth it in the long run for all concerned.
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Yes the consensus of opinion does seem to be that these have a hereditary aspect, one of the registries refuses to have cats with umbilical hernias registered for breeding, and when I recently heard that the Burnese boy I was buying in from Spain had developed a hernia and been neutered (I was gutted too!) my vet said that was probably the right decision for the breeder and her vet to have made. At least you have the option of another kitten, all the others from the breeder I was buying from had already gone

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Yes the consensus of opinion does seem to be that these have a hereditary aspect, one of the registries refuses to have cats with umbilical hernias registered for breeding, and when I recently heard that the Burnese boy I was buying in from Spain had developed a hernia and been neutered (I was gutted too!) my vet said that was probably the right decision for the breeder and her vet to have made. At least you have the option of another kitten, all the others from the breeder I was buying from had already gone

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sorry to hear you missed out on your kitten too, Im disapointed, but prob relieved as well, I would have hated to get 12 months down the road and find out the news. I suppose its the same for you too
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Yes well that is true.

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Lets face it if they hadnt taken blood this morning this hernia would not have been spotted
Absolutely agree. What I don't understand is why you didn't ask the breeder to carry out these tests if you were in any way concerned. The hernia would then have been discovered before you took the kitten.

Presumably if the blood tests show up FeLV/FIV/FCoV (or whatever else you may be looking for) you would also be wanting to return the kitten. Why put yourself through this? Surely the smart way is to buy a kitten already tested and clear of anything you may be concerned about. You may have to wait until the kitten is older than normal before it comes to you but that's got to be better than going through the misery of this returns process.
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Re: Im gutted and need advice

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I know how you feel. I recently booked a kitten who was to be my first stud cat, and at 9 weeks he was found to have a small hernia.
Whilst there is no proof that they are herditary, there does seem to be enough evidence to suggest they are not breed from to minamize the risk.
Luckly i had not had my little man, and was able to get one from a differant litter instead, who has now come to live with us, and is well settled.

I would have a look at the other litter, but don't feel pressured if they are not what you want (colour, type etc), better to wait if you are not sure.

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Re: Im gutted and need advice

OK this is what i dont like about pedagree cats/kittens/breeding you all bang on at us who have had moggy pregnacys BUT you take a kitten back because its not 100% perfect now what will happen to that poor poor kitten as hes not 100% perfect will he even get a home because hes a pedagree and not 100% im not haveing a go at op because obviously it wasnt what she wanted but its 1 rule for 1 and another for others at the end of the day a kitten is a kitten not a item you can return because it dont look right 1 of my little kittens had a hurnia vet didnt even notice it i did and ask the vet later he said its nothing to worry about it wont affect the cat in any way
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