as everyone knows my oh is saying no to another cat, but i still look.. i know i shouldnt..

anyway I saw an ad for a cat the double of my harley and fell in love

told a friend and she said she has been in touch and is going to view

she said she has had a message saying "the kittens is currently unregistered and are £140, if you would like him registered, this will be £400."

do you know if this is standard practice or should she walk away? he is a BSH?

Ive looked at the advert and it does now state the same info that the cost is £140 or £400 when i said to my friend that sounded strange cos surely (and i dont know as Im not a breeder) that the registration would be done earlier so ready for collection she just said i had the green eyed monster.

yes I am a tad jealous. i showed her the ad, and she didnt even say she was after a cat, but I am genuinely concerned she is paying £400 for a cat that may not be registered after she collects him

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registration costs around £10 (dependent on whether they have their own prefix or not) so that's a huge mark up just for registration - it would worry me.
EDIT: taken from the GCCF website - it seems she should register them all or she is breaking the code of ethics.
N.B. Transfer of Registration – GCCF Rule 10
10a When a cat or kitten is advertised or sold as a pedigree cat or kitten, the breeder shall at the time of sale provide the purchaser with a properly completed pedigree signed by the breeder, carrying 3 generations at least showing all the breed numbers and registration numbers, and also the breeder’s name and address. If the vendor is not the breeder, the pedigree must additionally be signed by the vendor. If the cat/kitten is not registered, a copy of the mating certificate (Rule 3d) shall be supplied by the vendor to the new owner. (then the new owner can register the kitten herself)
10b. If, at time of sale, the cat or kitten is registered the seller shall provide the purchaser with a transfer form, duly completed an signed by the seller,unless it is jointly agreed in writing by both parties at the time of sale not to do so.

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Registration costs £23 if there is no prefix, less if there is a prefix.

Assuming this is not a question of putting the kitten on the active register (and I very much doubt it is) then the only other possible expense is vaccinations - the breeder may be selling them unregistered because they are unvaccinated, and of course if she has them vaccinated that will put the price up and she will have to keep them longer, perhaps a price difference of £70 or so might explain that, but a price difference of £260 is ridiculous. I'd suggest your friend simply asks why the price difference is so high.

£400 is of course reasonable average for a registered kitten, my question would be why the breeder is prepared to let them go at £140 if she thinks she can actually get £400

Liz (who is about to have to reduce the price of registered kittens to £150)

Sounds extremely suss.... tell your friend to be very careful and ask the relevant questions. Are the parents registered active, is the breeder registered, (do they have a website), etc.

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Kaz

For kittens, joy is for the asking and smiles are for the giving

thankyou, i didnt know how much it was, but didnt think it would be hundreds!
plus to advertise on preloved at 13 weeks, didnt seem right. Will tell her then its up to her if she thinks its just me being jealous or not.

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liz, i almost sent you a pm about it cos i thought it was you who had litters atm. The kitten is beautiful, and the price does seem average but the fact they mention 2 prices is what rang alarm bells for me.

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Well, if they are 13 weeks they should have all their vaccinations by now. My guess is that the breeder intended to sell them unvaccinated and realises that if anyone wants them registered she will have to have them vaccinated too, though in that case she would have to wait three weeks until they were ready to go and buyers will disappear in that time, so perhaps that doesn't make sense either, come to think of it the whole scenario doesn't make sense.

Perhaps someone could send her a message and ask the question (no use me doing it, I'm advertising on preloved at the moment and it would be very obvious that it was not a genuine inquiry)

Liz

well, lou said she is going to view him and that she can bring him home today too? at first i thought she was just winding me up cos she knows how much i would love another like my harlz. It didnt make sense to me either. Ive sent her a message but heard nothing back. Passed on the info to her. Will have to wait and see what she says. thanks for the advice. Would hate for her to be scammed.

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Just found it here
Preloved | british short hair kitten (whiskers advert cat) for sale in Whickham, Newcastle, UK

No mention of vaccinations but the "family pet" description makes me wonder if registered means active register. The use of the word "tom", whilst technically correct, shouts "new breeder" to me since it just isn't a term breeders tend to use unless talking about the local neighbourhood pain in the neck!

liz

yeah the ad just isnt worded like most is it?

on the forum i dont use punctuation etc but if i type up a document etc i make sure it looks professional, and the way that the price differs so much it just doesnt sit right with me. I had showed her the ad originally as i just mentioned how much it looked like my harley and said i wish my oh wasnt so stubborn cos i would have loved him. Next min she messgages me back saying she had sent a message and her and her husband were going to look at him as they always loved my harley!

Ive looked at lots of ads daily and noticed prices differ alot even between colours and sexes but never between registered and unregistered. Infact this is the first time I have seen the option.

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