Hi, I'm not sure if I'm in the right section but I thought that I might be best off in here as breeders might be able to give me more insight into the colour with genetics.

My girl that I took in as a stray had her kittens nearly 2 weeks ago, she looks to be black/brown in colour I'm leaning more to brown as her nose leather & lips do not look black. She has had 3 kittens, 2 girls & 1 boy. One of the girls looks to be black & white but the other girl looks more brown & white & the boy looks solid brown. I was wondering if this was possible as I've been trying to find anything about bog standard moggies having a brown coat colouring, most things I've read have said that they are black but just look brown in the sun but they look brown even when not in the sunlight.

I will add pics for you to actually see the coat when I get home as I don't have any here with me at the moment. But for now is it genetically possible for there to be domestic shorthair cats that are brown?

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In theory it is possible but it is extremely unlikely. For some reason the chocolate gene just doesn't seem to be in the moggy gene pool. There is however a very easy way to tell. What colour are the paw pads? I have a black kitten at the moment, very definitely black, but he would pass for brown

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Liz

I've been going nuts about my kittens coloring too. Three of them are 'black and white' but even when they're not in sunlight parts of them appear brown with dark stripes running through them. The paw pads are pink and black. I'm guessing they are black and white but they definitely look like they have brown throughout.

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I think this is cos of the tabby gene being there but not or something. A lot of black cats looks brown in sunlight and a lot show tabby stripes too underneath. My friend has one which has white tabby stripes in sunlight, very odd colouring.

But the cats are almost definitely going to be black

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I'm back at home now & can post some pictures, you can also see the little boys pad.



Boys pad closeup


This is a pic of the mum & underneath that a pic of her paw



Lastly this is mum & her Kittens


Sorry about the size of the pics I don't know how to do them little like everyone else does.

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All black to me

For reference here is a Havana Brown (quite rare and Ive not seen any in this country so far)

Havana Brown - The Pet Wiki

Very obvious chocolate brown.

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could it be possible that she looks so brown cos her coat is so out of condition? When I took her in she had a bad flea & skin condition so she was extremely patchy with bold spots.
Will the kittens darken as they get older? Also I thought black cats had black pads? sorry but I'm a little new to this & I'm only asking as my black smoke tabby boy has black (really black) & pink pads. He's in the pics on my siggy.

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If she has been outdoors definitely. Black coats seem to rust outside and go a browny red colour which disappears after being kept indoors.

They don't look brown to me. There was a chart up before about colours and corresponding paw pads somewhere but I know that that wasnt 100% accurate or 100% complete as one of mine didnt match up to the colours given. The nose on the kittens definitely looks black to me, not the deep brown you would expect.

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Ah thank you, learn something new every day I found her scrounging round the bin area where I live & by the mess she was in I'm guessing she outside for a long time. She was skinny, bearly had any strength & looked like the walking dead. Her ears were bold of all fur & were skabby & she had patchy fur with really bad skin & fleas.

I've had her just over 7 weeks now & the fur is growning back on her ears & she's looking loads better, stronger & way more healthy. I've sorted the fleas out & her skins looking great so her fur's getting better too. She does has facial paralysis which means that she can't blink or move her whiskers or ears. That's why her ears lay kinda flat on the pics making it look like she's always looking sorry for heself.

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Coat certainly looks black but Mum's paw pads look to be brick pink as in chocolate coloured. What colour would you say her pads are? Her nose looks black though. Odd!

Liz