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Old 18-11-2010, 04:05 PM
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Thoughts on breeding once?

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I was just sat here wondering, whilst looking at some very cute kitten photos, what breeders opinions are on people just breeding their cat once for kittens? Rather than to continue a line for health, temperament of variety.

And if you opinion would differ if someone had a pedigree cat of just a moggy?

Im just curious if there is a general thought on the matter with cats? As I know there is with rats.

My cat has been spayed and my reasons where that she has an unknown background and as it would have just been a one off it wasn't worth it when there are already so many cats out there! Although it would have mattered on my opinion anyway as she came to me already spayed!

Dont get me wrong, as I asked this very question and people thought I was dead set against breeding. I do agree with it, as I don't want to see pets disappear and I think its great that people have proper aims to improve the variety(or is it breed? Im so used to rats im not sure!)

(I don't know much about cats and aspects of breeding, so I am extremely sorry if I mentioned something wrong in this post!)
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Old 18-11-2010, 04:13 PM
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if people want to breed their cat once, be it a Moggy or pedigree I personally dont see any wrong in that as long as the mother cat receives everything she needs and the breeder has secure as possible homes lined up for the kittens (we can never predict the future or is willing to keep them all for their entire lives. As long as things are done right I don't have a problem. But I will say the health of any animal should come 1st
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if people want to breed their cat once, be it a Moggy or pedigree I personally dont see any wrong in that as long as the mother cat receives everything she needs and the breeder has secure as possible homes lined up for the kittens (we can never predict the future or is willing to keep them all for their entire lives. As long as things are done right I don't have a problem. But I will say the health of any animal should come 1st
Definitely agree with the health first! However I do have to ask what are your thoughts with people doing it and the amount of cats, kittens and adults alike, in rescue?

As it could be said that for every kitten with a home for this hypothetical one time breeding that a home has been taken from a rescue cat?

Sorry if im badgering I have a very probing mind!
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Definitely agree with the health first! However I do have to ask what are your thoughts with people doing it and the amount of cats, kittens and adults alike, in rescue?

As it could be said that for every kitten with a home for this hypothetical one time breeding that a home has been taken from a rescue cat?

Sorry if im badgering I have a very probing mind!
If we are looking at breeding in terms of how it relates to rescues then a litter of moggies isn't very ethical when there are rescues full of moggie kittens in the summer. I am sure there are many who don't see what the difference is between a moggie litter and a purebred litter, too. At least with breeds, they aren't anywhere near as common and are (or should!) being bred to further/better the breed. Though in this case, I guess they aren't.
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I have alot of people come to me and say 'oh can I please breed her once?' When I ask why its normally 'just want to have some kittens 'I like kittens' 'Its nature' 'Get some money back' 'I want to give up work and do it as a job' 'Itll be a good experience for the kids' 'just wanted to get some kittens from her'

When I then explain the cost of this one litter, health tests finding the best stud, keeping back a kitten to further that on, raising them, vacs reg fees etc etc the story changes to 'erm no I dont think we will bother actually, we just wanted a litter of kittens, thought it would be fun dont want to keep any'

I find it quite pointless really, its not really furthering a breed, its just about having some kittens, if everything is done health tests good stud etc then why not? but why only one litter? Just doesnt seem worth it after all that hard work?

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I think the rescue this is a different thing altogether, maybe it could be policed better, but how? who will do it?
I think that All kittens born should have health tested parents, go with at least the 1st vac & health check, pack of food & help 24/7 from the breeder.

This includes moggies, I think that if this was the case Alot of people would stop letting their cats out to breed 5 times a year with any old thing, maybe it would help decrease the amount of kittens in rescues?

i dont think people should stop breeding cats or dogs, if they/we did and all the ones in rescues were snapped up,. that would be it in a few years there would be no animals left pedigree or not if breeding wasnt allowed.

Just needs to be done responsibly & weed out the back yard breeders.
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Aside from the problem of overflowing rescue cats and kittens, my worry is for the cat itself.
You have the poor cat under the care of a complete novice with no mentoring or back up.

They "love" the cat so much but the owner has set themselves up to be veterinary obstetrician, neonatologist and paediatrician to the cat and her kittens, with no prior breeding experience and no veterinary training and even sometimes no research either.
Leaving it all to vets can be hit and miss as regards breeding, they can be miles away too so it is often the owner that holds all the cards and her actions may be the difference between life and death for the cat and kittens.

Too often when things go wrong as they can do, it was "nature", when all along it is inexperience and lack of knowledge that can cause kitten deaths and sometimes mothers too.
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Definitely agree with the health first! However I do have to ask what are your thoughts with people doing it and the amount of cats, kittens and adults alike, in rescue?

As it could be said that for every kitten with a home for this hypothetical one time breeding that a home has been taken from a rescue cat?

Sorry if im badgering I have a very probing mind!
I understand what your saying but rescue's aren't for everyone as some rescues are very strict. I did say I only agree if the said breeder was willing to keep all cats if no suitable homes. Meaning that litter would not impact on the rescue crisis I know this is hypothetical but the same could be said about humans having babies why dosen't everyone adopt.
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Re: Thoughts on breeding once?

Some very interesting thoughts here. We considered breeding our young ones once, but then dismissed it because we can't possibly keep them all. They're Oriental Sorthair and Siamese respectively, purebred but not registered.
I just find it difficult to make sure they get a good enough home and there's our inexperience.
I've also done a lot of research, it seems that many purebred cats and kittens end up in shelters. I'd rather give them a chance.







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