ragdoll question

can 2 colourpoints produce a bi-colour?

mum a seal point dad a blue mitted

thanks!

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According to this ...

The British Ragdoll Cat Club - Ragdoll Pattern & Colour Predictions

No they can't.

They will produce 1/2 colourpoint and 1/2 mitted.

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Hi thanks I know about that and what they Should produce....

BUT is it Possible!

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Obviously the Ragdoll-specific genes are not really my area of expertise, but it seems that there is the possibility that a Ragdoll that is genetically a bicolour (a mid-high white, for example) could possibly be classified, registered and shown as a mitted, and visa versa.

In that case, it is, of course, possible that a bicolour offspring with a better (ie: recognisable) pattern is born.

See here. I think the info you want is on pages 9-11 (Ragdolls start on page 10).

mums a colourpoint....dads a colourpoint.............Could they produce a bi-colour!

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Before you start getting snippy, could you make up your mind, please? If by "colourpoint" you mean neither have any white, then no, no bicolour kittens will be produced. But you didn't say that. You said:

Mitted, by definition, means white paws, does it not?

So, I would assume one of 3 things: 1. dad was misclassified as mitted when he's genetically a bicolour (as explained above), or 2. the dad is not the dad you think he is, or 3. you have the colours wrong in your original post, in which case, refer to point 2.

Think you have read more into that post im not 'snippy' I dont even know what that means.

Dad is a colourpoint mitted mum is a colourpoint, same thing in both posts, dads 100% colourpoint mitted and mums def the colourpoint mummy. dads blue mums seal.

so would this Be Possible, some genetics people say it Can be possible

Im only asking as a friend of mine has used her boy & girl and had 3 bi-colours in the litter and I thought that this was impossible from 2 colourpoint parents!!

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I'm confused.

Colourpoint means no white.

Mitted means white paws and chin (and tummy, to some degree). A white blaze on the face is allowed.

Bi-colour means the white on the tummy and / or legs extends all the way up the face in an inverted 'V'. It's a more extensive form of the white on the Mitted Ragdoll.

If he's mitted, by definition, he can't be a Colourpoint, can he?

ive had colourpoints and torties that are mitted ive seen cats that arent bi-colours that are mitted??

Have I got it wrong?? His face is colourpoint but he has 4white mitts.....

im confused!! ive completly confused myself!

this is what the dad looks like but blue



Your right your right!!! ARGH!! im sucha idiot!
SORRY I mean that his face isnt bi-colour but his face looks like that above but his mitted, Ive really got in a muddle here

dad looks like that above so a blue mitted and blue and mums a seal colourpoint

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It's okay.

I know what you mean now.

You're confusing the colourpoint gene (also called the Himalayan or Siamese gene, the one that causes the colourpoint pattern) with the Ragdoll standard definition of colourpoint.

Yes, all Ragdolls have two copies of the colourpoint gene, but the Ragdoll standard doesn't call all Ragdolls colourpoints: only those ones with no white on them are Colourpoints.

So, the boy in question is mitted.

Do the three kittens in question have mitts and white blazes on their noses, or are they bicolours?