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Old 05-11-2010, 03:48 PM
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hiya i know im so sorry i *know that* I have no idea what i was even thinking of!!

well they have full bi-colour looks, inverted V on the face and whitepaws/body and brownish saddle. i was so surprised as i wad lead to beleive that colourpoint & colourpoint or colourpoint & mitted cant = a bi colour??

but she said she spoke to the man who she bought the stud from and he said that its possible to get bi-colours from colourpoints & mitted parents?
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:52 PM
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Re: pattern question

The thing is, it's a somewhat of a spectrum.

No white ----> Some white ----> More white ---. Lots of white
Colourpoint ---> Mitted ---> High Mitted ---> Bicolour

The piebald genes that cause the kind of white seen in Ragdolls are known for being extremely variable in their expression, so there's no way of ruling out the fact that a parent that appears to have not much white might pass more white on to their kittens, and mismarked Ragdolls are not uncommon.

Because High Mitted Ragdolls are not classified separately to Mitted Ragdolls, there is also always the chance he is one of these, rather, and is passing more white onto his kittens than is expected.

That might be it?
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:45 PM
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Re: pattern question

The only thing I can think of is that

a) mum is a mismarked mitted (appears c/p but is actually a mitted. 2 mitteds can produce high mitteds which appear bicoloured.

b) dad is actually a mismarked bicolour (appears mitted, no inverted V on the face etc)?

What patterns were the other kittens? What patterned kittens has mum and dad have before?


I have a mismarked girl here with "mitts". I say mitts loosely as they're slightly higher than mitteds should be but lower than a bicolour. She has a solid nose and just a small amount of white below her eyes. She could quite easily be classed as a mismarked mitted but as her dad is a true bicolour and mum is colourpoint, their kittens can only be colourpoint or bicolour.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:27 PM
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hiya ive only seen a couple of pics, dad is a blue mitted cant see any white on his face and he has blue paws but those bits are white, and mum is a seal colourpoint.

2 or 3 of them were bi-colour and the rest colourpoints from what i remember

she sent it to me a while ago and ive been thinking of it, no idea what/if they have had kittens before, think the dad has but no idea what they look like!

RIGHT! Just checked my email and mum is seal mitted & dad a blue mitted....does that make a difference? def 2 of them are bi-colours just looked at the piccis
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Re: pattern question

Ahhhh THAT makes things clearer! The bicolours are actually high mitted bicolours. They appear completely bicoloured but if they're mated back to a coloupoint, would produce mitteds (not bicolours).
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lol sorry for the confusion so the bi-colour is possible from that mating??
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Re: pattern question

Yep! Mitted x mitted = high mitted (bicolour). Perfectly possible!
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yippee lol!!! She was asking me for advice and at the time I thought it was 2 colourpoints! didnt realize just re-reading the email it was 2mitts.......

Ah dear!! lol thanks for all the help!! I can rest easy now lol!
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