Fiona's kittens were born last night. Fiona is a third generation Tiffanie and I was desperately hoping for my fourth generation - two people I have sold girls to for breeding have now had a fourth generation from my cats, also I was desperate to prove Basil, and I still haven't done either. Yes, still! Two of the kittens are black, which is not possible from that mating, they have to be Danny's. Danny is an outcross for my Burmese, he was eight months old at the time, living in the house, and had not shown any interest in girls. He is not a valid outcross for Asians, and even if he was, you cannot outcross a third generation which is not yet registerable as a full Asian to another breed.

Katie is due any day and of course now I am thinking the same might apply there, hopefully it will be obvious whose kittens they are, but if not (there is some possible overlap) I might have to resort to DNA testing for paternity.

Mitzi has been yelling for two weeks and is living with Nigel. Nigel has done nothing (Nigel x Mitzi would be another way to get my fourth generation), except that yesterday he attacked her, seemingly an unprovoked attack and he has always been such a gentle boy before. If that happens again she is not going to be able to be left with him and since she is bullied by everyone else that is going to make life very difficult. In desperation I put her with Basil a couple of times recently, but he doesn't seem to have succeeded there either.

Basil has a visitor who is clearly in full call and so far he has only growled and hissed at her.

So I have a litter of pretty 3/4 pedigrees, two stud cats (22 months and 13 months) who appear to be completely incompetent, and a ten month old who is fully functional but whom I have no work for until next year. And it looks as if I'm not going to get my fourth generation this year either.

I feel gutted today and almost on the point of giving up!

Liz

awww liz, that must be so dissapointing and a blimmin nightmare! Gutted for you x

I know you joked about the 8mo kitten before, but omfg the little tinker!!!!

Hugs, i dont know what else to say
xx

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Oh dear , what a nightmare! I'm sure you'll carry on but it must be so devastating that all that planning and waiting has been in vain. I do hope that your expected litter from Katie is all that you hope it to be.

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Don't give up Liz, I am sorry to hear your problems today.Don't lose heart though you will get there in the end Im sure.

Izzie

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i agree with izzie , dont give up, you WILL get there in the end, xxxxxxxxx

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aww that must be frustrating for you can imagine how you must be feeling but dont give up Im sure all will be well in the end. What a little devil yr 8 month kitten is! Hope the babies are all healthy and mum doing well x

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3 moggies: Maude, Alfie and Honey
1 dwarf lop rabbit: Rolo
and 25 tropical fish!

The first baby was breech and took an awfully long time to come out, he took a couple of breaths but that was it, I couldn't revive him despite trying for some time. The next three came out really quickly but Fiona didn't know what to do with the sacs so I had to break them all. Fortunately she had worked it out by the time she had the fifth one as that was born after I thought she had finished and went to bed. So we have four kittens - black shaded silver, blue shaded and blue girls and a blue boy, they will not exactly be difficult to find homes for and Fiona of course is delighted with them.

Liz

I like the sound of the black/blue shaded silver ones. Sorry how things have turned out. Maybe next time.

can we have pictures of them when your not to busy,......................pretty please.........................

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