they sure bloody are but she was at it all day normally and so the family and neighbours werent best pleased, where as the budgies dont always make noise only for about half an hour each half of the day according to me mum.

good thing is though i managed to rehome a cockatiel, he cant fly as he was confined to a really small cage for 11 years(apparently) and now has my bedroom as his own and has a cage to sleep on top of.