I think you're onto something there! I can't understand how some people can use them with no problems yet there's clearly a lot of harm been done to the dogs in the pictures sallyanne has posted?

On a personal level I agree that you shouldn't have to use such a device, old school methods are better, but that said, you could say the same about something like a halti harness?

I must admit that my opinion was made purely on seeing those pictures and reading sallyannes post as I'd never even heard of an e-collar before, but now I'm begining to wonder if people have used them without problem, how were those injuries caused by the same device?