Thanks everyone i am going to ring them at 8.30 when they are open just to if the vets i prefer to see are on this morning theres only 2 of them that i will see after the major blunder which was made with our first springer that we lost last year. if not it will be monday, I know its nothing major but after monty i have lost confidence in anyone else, he still has it taped and doesnt seem to be bothering him with that on. Thanks again ile post to let you know what the vets say.