problem is, in a couple of seconds he will have shreaded my hand.... and it's not just my hands. he will go for elbows too, and up a t-shirt sleeve, under the bottom of a t-shirt... he just seems to find flesh with those little paws and needle point claws to the point where he draws blood or even gets his claws stuck in flesh.

Maybe it's because my old boy used to be very good at playing like a devil and turning it off instantly as soon as you stroked him.

I had him from 6 years so have no idea how to train these two to be the same.