Thanks for that, I'll suggest they pop a taller fence on their side (they've put fence panels up on the other side of the garden) as that side of the garden gets an awful lot of sun in the summer so the dog will need some nice cool shade. I'm not sure how much it'll get socialised or not. They've had about 3 or 4 dogs in the past few years but none have stayed longer than a few months, fingers crossed for this one. Think I'll pop some of that reed screening up to start off with, I'm assuming it's a pup that they're getting so jumping over the fence shouldn't be an issue for a while, it'll stop Katie from seeing it so much as I know she'll bark at it as soon as she see's it, and it's going to be kenneled from day 1 so it's always going to be there. She barks at things whilst wagging her tail, she's a little confused I think, she won't bite but she's bloody loud when she's barking. She's actually a jack russel cross, LOL, her mum was a parsons ... her dad was the biggest ugliest mongrel on the estate (border x GSD) but Katie looks like a gsd cross with all the nurotic stuff of a terrier down to the trembling legs they get, lol, I think if she was smaller then she'd be a yappy terrier, but she's as big as a border collie. Thanks for the info, I'll look into getting a fence if they won't even though it's not my dog that gonna jump over it, Katie can't jump, pop something in her way and if she can't climb over it she doesn't bother.