Your aggression speaks volumes. I made my point and that was, if somebody says something derogatory about your chosen breed you will defend it fiercely as I have done mine. Any SE which is registered is a pedigree even if it is a foundation stage cat. If you have a problem with that take it up with the governing bodies. Perhaps if you had been involved in the foundation stage of the oriental, you may not have been so quick to judge another foundation stage breed. We could all take the easy route and buy in an established breed where all the hard work has been done for us, however some of us prefer to be part of the hard work. Enjoy your cats and I wish you every success both with your breeding and showing