ye very true mate i really do need something along the lines of your avairy , im going to get hold of some 2by2 battens and some of that fenceing and build a big one maybe not the same size as yours but enough for them to stretch there wings as you said and good point clair they shiver in my bedroom so if i put them out in april in another new cage i intend on making they should be ok for the next frost? say october ye. i'll have a heated mat for them as well so they should be fine ye?