wow! quick responses! i think he does see it all as a game, have tried hold him down and even stroking and calmly massaging him but he doesnt seem to calm down. haven't taken him to training, and after reading a lot of advice online i think what he needs is socialisation. he has met other dogs and we didnt get him till 8 weeks but maybe other pups could teach him what we're struggling to do. the off command doenst work when he's excited, will try the lead. the biting mostly occurs through excitement so i am going to suggest not so much rough play to my partner. it's at the stage i dont want to take him to other peoples houses in case he nips them! when he's not nipping he's great.