Originally Posted by TortMad

Incidently healthy hermans don't grow much bigger than 15-20cm any way. Marginated's, Gracea and ibera grow a little bigger. Any bigger than that then you are looking at the tropical species, which don't hibernate, need year round heating and can't be kept outdoors, they must be brought in at night and on cooler days, so require more care, more food and cost much more interms of heating bills