thanks DT our cassie is from what only can be described as a BYB so am bein careful this time, we started on a backfoot with cassie, instead of teaching her normal puppy obedience we had to spend all our time trying to build on her confidence as she had none she was born n left out side till the day we bought her home she is still paying for it to this day (we have had her 16 months). we wont another dog but not to go through all this again