So many excellent posts on this thread, as a prospective puppy owner, thankyou so much.

I've always had rescue dogs previously and this time around I thought we might go downt he pedigree/breeder route so we could have more of a choice in what breed we want. Having visited our first breeder today all I can say is I am making an appointment to visit our local rescue tomorrow.

I was put off the moment I got there and we made our polite excuses and left after 5 minutes, I've pondered all evening on wether I was wrong to do this, if my instinct was misjudged, but from reading this thread I can go to bed tonight knowing I did the right thing, I mentally ticked every point made on Sgurrs post 'Signs of a bad breeder' - I knew more about the breed than she did, bred four different breeds, didn't know what an endorsement was?! showed no interest in us or the pups, no papers etc.

Lets hope I have more luck at the rescue, at least I feel I can trust what the dogs show me, they aren't there for the money!