Thanks for your messages.

I'm prepared to put a tray there if you think this will help. Its not an ideal place, but this is not an ideal situation!!

They are in one room at the moment. well, sort of. We moved into the inlaws a while ago, and we have our own front room and dwelling on the side of the house, but its not quite finished enough for us ourself to live in, we need to bring the last bit over from our house, so we are living in the main house, and the cats are in that area. It consists of a huge front room, and a bedroom, but I tend to keep that door shut, and I put the 2 adult cats in there to eat, otherwise they snaffle the kitten food. The kits have tonnes of room to run around, and love climbing up the sofa and pouncing on eachother. We have 2 litter trays in there, well in fact 3. I have a large roll over one which Chips uses. Kipper goes outside (I have to let him in and out every few hours!) and I put an uncovered tray next to Chips' big one as its quite high to climb in, but both of them seem to prefer the covered one, and they can get in and out now. Though both types of tray are being used.

I thought of moving a tray to the corner before, but I thought maybe they would just go next to it? I will go move it now and I guess time will tell....

I'm soooooooo worried about this! Kipper was an absolute nightmare for so many months, and if I am honest, it made me not enjoy him, as he would wee 6ish times a day and poo twice in my kitchen, and it took a while after to start really enjoying him again. I know how awful that sounds! We tried SO much with him. And I just really dont want to go down that route again. In fact I cant. I simply cant have a cat pooing in a room where my new born baby and children will be! SO i have to get this sorted ASAP.