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Old 16-10-2008, 08:43 AM
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Re: The dreaded recall

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Originally Posted by hutch6
it sounds like she doesn't respect you, she respects the treat.
Yea, that is EXACTLY what it is. No doubt. There is no interest in humans what-so-ever. I dont really understand it to be honest. I mean maybe if i tied her up in the garden all day, only letting her in for food and then back out in the kennel id understand her lack of interest for me but. I play with her ALOT, we train alot, go on atleast 2hrs worth of adventures a day, often take her to strange new places on the weekend and even take her out to dinner !!! but she has little interest in us.

She'll come bounding over to you with the happiest face ever, smell your hands and then walk off if there is nothing in them. We did try and ween of treats once a trick or command was learned but i dont think we did it right. We started off by sometimes giving a treat, sometimes giving a toy. TO begin with it was more often treats than toy, then we swapped to more often toys than treats but she never...EVER pays attention to the toy. Infact, she never plays when outside. Only things she'll do is jump up and bite ya arms if you do that aeroplane thing ...that hurt !

So no, i dont take any offence from you with that comment about respect because its pretty much spot on.

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Does your dog understand that they are disobeying you and that when it does it goes home? Does it sulk when it goes home?
I have read many places that dogs cannot link the delayed punishment with a previous crime. But honestly, yes she does sulk. Infact, often she'll collapse on the floor, refusing to move. I have switched from a collor to a harness when walking her so that when she does collapse, i simply keep walking, she can walk on her feet, or slide along the grass on her belly....up to her, she gets up soon enough. When we return home (which is a 2min walk, doesnt involve cars) she will lay in her bed and refuse to wag her tail or roll over for a belly scratch for atleast 10-15mins.

I believe she does know she is disobeying as she constantly looks behind her to check my reaction. Sometimes there are dogs that Daisy loves to play with and i do not stop this, i say "go on then" and she bolts over there without a second thought. When i say "Daisy, leave!" she'll take a few steps, stop take a few more, stop looking back and looking VERY guilty as in "please dont punish me for what im about to do, look, im very cute"

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Originally Posted by ryan
I kept him on one of these flexi-leads but with the freedom of the length of the lead whenever we were around other dogs. I never let him off the lead until he came to me on command to be released from the lead, when he came, I would make him sit, take off the lead and make him stay until I decided.
I have been doing this for about a week now. Its SLOWLY begining to sink in but i do have a few q's about it.

1. Does your dog being all excited at the end of the lead not attract
other dogs attention and then they run over?

Something daisy learnt quick is if she is on the end of a lead and unable to run over to said dog, Enough jumping about and whining will get the dog to come to her. Now she doesnt need to be off the lead cos the dogs right here and she can play with it all she wants.

2. When she's on full extension pulling towards the dog and you say
"<dog> No!, Come." and of course, she COMPLETELY ignores you,
do you just shut-up and wait for her to respond, or do you say it
again and again untill she responds to it ?

Thanks= you for all the replies regarding this issue. Although its not the most severe in the world, its seeping the fun out of taking Daisy out. She doesnt play with me or anything when she's outside so the least id like her to do is listen to basic commands. I know its my shortcomings that are fuelling this but i cannot see a way round it myself and local trainers all say the same thing with the same degree of success.
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