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Old 19-09-2008, 08:33 AM
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Re: A few questions (long post)

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The recall sounds as if its going well. The idea behind a perfect recall is to never call the dog if its associated with something it doesn't want to do. When it's home time, never ever ever ever recall your dog, just walk up to her and put the lead on and head home/to the car. The same applies to bathtime or nailtrimming time. The art of a great recall is that the dog comes back because she knows its going to be better than what they are chasing after. Once you have her attention, she will no longer be thinking about what she was running to, the beauty of dogs with the inability to have anything other than a one track mind.
Hmm, i have tried to make recall 100% rewarding. Saying that, i do ask her to come when its home time But then i put her on the lead and if i walk a few steps without pulling then she often gets a treat. You recon its worth making a new word for recall ?

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A substitute of praise is just as much of a reward
I have read this everywhere but...i just cant see the excitement in Daisy when i give praise. She is always just trying to get away form me. Once she brings the frisbee back theres no reason for her to stay if i dont have a treat so shes off to what she was sniffing when i threw it. Indoors she loves belly scratches. She'll lay there for as long as you like but outside, if you try, she'll bite your arms. Not hard, but as she has learnt that biting us always gets us to get up and walk away instantly, ignoring her, allowing her to get back to what she was doing.

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probably just a lack of something in her diet. Try adding some fibre to it, along with the vegetables that sleeptalker suggested that will help break it up and allow her to get it all out in one go!
Nice, ill give that a go today as i have plenty of vegetables i promise myself ill eat one day and never do.

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As for the ball (and frisbee) games, the trick is to make sure that you are enjoying them. I look after a 16 year old border collie once every few months and her owner said she never chases the ball because she was too old. On her first walk, I managed to take a tennis ball, bounce up and down like a loony, wave it in front of her and she got very interested in it to the point that she was barking at me, I threw it and she growled at the thing the entire time she was running towards it.
Tried this, this morning and making strange noises seems to put her off but jumping about like a loon and pretending the frisbe is the best thing in the world and she certianly cant have it seems to get her interested. Not overly, but thanks for that . She'll start grabbing for it if i put it low enough. I had previously taught her "get it" which is a command for 'hold in your mouth whatever is immediately infront of your face' and i use this as a way of telling if she wants it. I dont throw it untill she bites and lets go of it.

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I'd also suggest alternating the toys, without knowing the breed, I can't really suggest an ideal game to play with her as different breeds were bred for different purposes.
Shes a 15month old Labrador (pics in profile) She has a ball on a rope, frisbee, big bouncy ball( just a lil smaller than a football ) none of which she has shown a particular interest in so we stopped buying more toys. Oh and a huge knot of rope, but she teared the first layer up the first day we got it and never touched it since.

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Another liklihood is that if the dog is used to getting treats after fetching and you are taking her out soon after a meal, the treat won't be as appetising to her if she is running on a full stomach. A hungry dog is an easy dog to train.
Argh i read this and afterwards it is so obvious. Yea we got for our penaltimate walk about 1.30 -2.00hrs after eating. Tht way she poops it out almost instantly and has an empty stomach by the time we reach the park. I suppose though treats still arent as effective the other side of meal time. I did once try getting her food ready, putting it on the floor and then taking her out. Figured as i always get her to do a few tricks before giving her food and when the bowls on the floor she is PERFECT , thought id tranfer this behaviour outside but she DID NOT like being taken out when there was food on the floor, that was a nightmare of a walk lol.

THanks for the lengthy reply
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