Hi sorry but havent any of u baffers ever herd of holistic kibble ( my do eats burns lamb rice veg tinned burns free range chicken and ocean fish and also gets nater diet and orijen ( look up burns nater diet and orijen) p.si am sorry to tell u but i just found to webs with lots of risks and side effects of barf (will post them when i find them) it might be better to try holistic rather than barf i mean my dog ate pedigree bad stuff but so is barf. my dog dribbles over her food when she sees me making it now i swaer she never dribbled for pedigree or barf