I'm talking about the people who breed pedigree KC registered dogs who have had all the relevant health tests done prior to breeding, they are good breeders breeding from sound parents with good health and temperaments. Again I agree breeding should never be taken lightly, and there are people breeding poor specimens, in all walks of life. I am saying there are lots of people breeding excellent dogs, whose parents have never been in a breed ring. They do know what they are doing, they socialise and habituate the litter well and produce excellent family companions, which at the end of the day is what most people are looking for.