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Thanks again for your help and advice, just as a matter of interest, being niave on the crate training process, would YOU advise to crate train or is the more conventional way of a room, his bed, and paper just as successful.
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I think this is down to personal preferance, rather than what is more successful, I crate trained both of mine, but that is due to my breed being very destructive if left on their own! I found this to be safer for the pups aswell as my own home
Plus being a large breed the damage would be a bit more significant than say a toy breed
Just stick with it if it is what you want to do and I promise things will be alot better by this time next week, mine howled for 3 days with the time getting less and less. Now I wouldn't be without the crates and nor would they, Blade goes to pieces if I collapse his to take away with us as he doesn't know what to do, he will just run round in circles till we get in the car
