thats why so many breeders want to see the kids with the parents -
if the parents *cannot* firmly but kindly get the 5-YO to sit on the floor in order to get a pup in their laps,
the breeder is pretty sure any pup will have trouble getting housetrained, let alone socialized, habituated + taught manners.

Steven Weber: Desperate Fathers

how would this man raise a puppy? (clue: the punished, barring deliberate willful conscious change, will punish.)

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