Originally Posted by Nina Cole

I think you are referring to me when you quote 'do gooders', so please afford me the courtesy of a reply.

I was not being derisory at all with my remark, just that training usually consists of the owner with their dog. I personally, have not heard of sending a dog away to be trained.

I should also stress, that my third GSD was extremely difficult to handle when young, so I do sympathise if you are having problems. The point of training is that the trainer can help both you and the dog with any problems and show you how to address them.

I am sorry if you felt I was being a 'do gooder', since I was only trying to help.