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Old 17-05-2008, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tootsiesmum View Post
yes she is pomeranian and they are part of the German Spitz family ( the German Spitz Klein was bred smaller and smaller till the pomeranian was born but I have just had a look on Google and the German Spitz was made protected in 1994 to keep their size ) Tootsie was the runt so is very small ( 12" tall ) and her face although it is very cute is not a good example of a pom - but does look more like a minature version of a spitz hmmmm you have made me think about this now - perhaps I should call her a minature German Spitz Klein instead of a Pomeranian as she really does look more like one. The pics on google of a spitz look more like her than a pom although a pom can be called a Dwarf Spitz too so I think I might call her that in future. Have put the pics below to see what you think

German Spitz Klein


Pomeranian

Hi
If you go and check the history of the breeds you will see that what was the german spitz is now registered as German spitz Klein and Mittel this was in 1985. There were all bundled in together as pomeranains but the size differeances were too great and these breed classifications were proposed and accepted to protect each breed with it's own standard and i'm afraid your dog would be considered a spitz.
German Spitz World - the premier site for all German Spitz enthusiasts and breeders

German Spitz World - the premier site for all German Spitz enthusiasts and breeders
In the meantime the three (Tum-Tum, Velvet, and Folly) had been mated with the Pomeranian breeds in the UK and also to each other, due to the KC registering them as Poms. This caused major problems. It was decided to form a separate club, after opposition to two sizes of Pomeranian by the small Pomeranian breeders and a decision was taken to attempt to get recognition for a breed separate from the Pom called the German Spitz. Despite revelations that some of the above mentioned dogs had in fact been registered in Holland as Dwerg Keeshonden which was in fact Pomeranians when translated and after lots of talks with the KC in the UK they agreed that there would be two sizes of German spitz to be called Klein (small) and Mittel (middle) and any progeny from the 'First four dogs could be added to the German spitz register. The puppies to be registered as German spitz who had only one of the four in their breeding would be put on a development register, whilst puppies with two of the first four as their sire and dam would be registered as full German spitz in one of the two sizes. The owner to decide which size. Once registered there was to be no interbreeding of sizes and an agreement was required that The newly formed German spitz club would agree to no colour/markings barred. You now have our present day German spitz in two sizes in the UK. They are gaining popularity due to their happy disposition and the high placings reached in both Crufts and championship shows around the country giving them a higher profile in the media. Challenge Certificates (C.C.'s) were first awarded in the breed at Crufts in 1995 and in November 1999, the club had its first Championship show.

Size:
Kleins 23-29 cms (9 - 11 ½ inches) Mittels 30-38 cms (12 - 15 inches) Dogs masculine, bitches feminine.

Pomeranians if bred correctly should be smaller than this, 20cm or 8 inches. and around 3lb-5lb for males - bitches
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