re post #10 - ad-1980
hey, ad! :--)
i have used crates for time-outs for decades, literally - none of the pups or dogs have learnt to see their crate as a terrible place, to be dreaded or unhappy in; rather, they have all entered open-doored crates on their own, to nap in peace, chew a toy, escape noisy visitors, etc.
it has simply never been an issue, not once - and a time-out is SHORT.
specifically, for such a young pup, 30-secs or even less; it only *marks* the undesired behavior clearly, with a short, pointed consequence.
the pup is NOT supposed to be languishing in the crate for 30-MINUTES after a 30-second attempt to hump, that would be ridiculous and is entirely not the intention of my post; time-outs are interruptions, not long-term banishment!
i hope this clarifies, Cheers!
--- terry
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