i would say money makers, although the vet i have now is brilliant and like bull breeds , myself and oh were able to be with our little girl for her c-section , which was really something else. my little boy dog caught fox mange last year and my previous vet had us up there every week with stronghold treatment, malasab shampoo, anti biotics, virbac shampoo and then after about 12 weeks of treatment at nearly £70 per visit decided perhaps we should try the mange wash which completely cured him!!!!!!!!!!! £15 for a bottle!!!!! so definately money makers or legalised robbers as we call them!