will give plenty of thought to the matter, dont worry ive spoken to someone today who will have a litter due early spring , who will be happy to have daisy meet the pups when there old enough to socialise. So untill then i guess i can do a bit more research . Thanx guys its great that were all so different yet with the same adoration of our 4 legged friends . I too have raed the Jan Fennell books and yes she is great her tips really do work we rescently looked after a friends dog who had little socialisation from a pup and who showed signs of fear towards Daisy ,but gesture eating and ignoring his obsesive need to sit on your lap to feel safe worked . Unfortunatly we only had him for a week but he had chilled out loads in the short time we had him, Daisy on the other hand was so chilled form the word go that we never really needed to put into practice anything more than gesture eating and ignoring for 5 mins on arriving home she knows her place , but yes for anyone with leadership problems with there dogs its a must .